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[geckotheglorious] 20/8/2020 11:06

Watch out Mike, she might swipe you with her faux leopard skin hand bag!

[bbalanjones] 20/8/2020 10:43

A current Tweet on the state of Politics UK

Many of us have similar feelings. When you look at our history without rose-tinted Empire glasses, you realise just how obnoxious a nation we’ve been and are. Still there’s always time to change. A fundamental and radical new written constitution and electoral system to start.

Brexiteers beware!!

also from Twitterland

"You're not alone. I always knew there was cronyism within politics, but the sheer contempt that the Tories have for us in openly throwing money at each other is beyond sickening. They are acting like they know that regardless of how they behave they will be re-elected. Wonder why?"

"Same story with every right wing populist party around the globe. Each have used a sinister method of appearing to juxtapose against the ‘elite’ when it is the elite who they are and whom they represent."
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[mikemichael2] 20/8/2020 10:38

'I'll carry on with my whinges whether here or in your face in real life. What are you going to do about it big boy'

Ooo, sorry min, please don't bash me up!!!

[minerve 2] 20/8/2020 10:32

"Staged referendum = didn't produce the result I wanted.

That's the left for you!"


It was obviously staged and corrupt otherwise you wouldn't have had a problem with a second referendum when we were all better informed as to the consequences. Instead you Brexiters were all running scared like little chickens from a small fox.

Also, it isn't going to produce the results you want neither. But you are so ignorant and stupid you don't realise it yet.

That's the Thatcher right geriatrics for you! ;)

[xxxxxy] 20/8/2020 10:29

Keep up the pressure.Boycott the EUSSR.And particularly Boycott France.No Deal.WTO

[xxxxxy] 20/8/2020 10:28

REVEALED : EU's land-grab from UK, using just 0.2% of its total imports as the excuseHow the expansionist EU and the Irish Government plotted to take UK territory?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020Facts4EU.Org reveals the truth behind the Northern Ireland border and the EU's colonial ambitionsToday, Thursday 20 Aug 2020, UK Chief Negotiator David Frost is once again in Brussels for Round Seven of the UK-EU trade talks with the EU Commission's Michel Barnier. The two sides will be covering much of the same ground as before and little progress is expected by either side.The most fundamental issue is a trade deal and the EU shows no sign of acceding to the UK's perfectly reasonable request for an agreement very similar to the ones the EU has recently negotiated with other countries.Meanwhile, the abomination that is the Withdrawal Agreement still standsOne of the most contentious areas of the Withdrawal Agreement originally negotiated by Theresa May was the Northern Ireland Protocol. Whilst Boris Johnson and David Frost renegotiated this, it remains unacceptable.This has nothing to do with peace, and everything to do with the dictatorial and colonial EUThe EU and the Irish government colluded over one issue and made it into a cause célèbre to try to keep the UK in the EU - and to punish the UK if it actually delivered on the result of the EU Referendum and left. Below we present the evidence.FACTS4EU.ORG IRISH BORDER SUMMARYJust 0.23% of the EU's global imports cross the border from Northern IrelandThe Irish border is only mentioned once – in passing – in the Good Friday Agreement (GFA)The GFA does not require membership of the EU, Customs Union, Single Market [NI court ruling]HMRC, Irish Customs, and the EU Parliament's expert report all saw no problem & no hard borderBrexit for Northern Ireland presents almost no risk to the EU or its Single MarketThe N.I. exports over the border will account for only 0.2% of total EU importsThe EU and the Irish Government prevented UK and Irish Customs from agreeing a simple solutionHere is the evidenceThe EU Parliament's own commissioned expert told its Exiting the EU Committee:-"There would not need to be any necessary infrastructure and not need to be either CCTV cameras or number plate readers."– Lars Karlsson, commissioned expert to the EU Parliament, Brexit Border/Customs Report, Mar 2018, former Director Of The World Customs Organization."Declarations would be electronic. Most transactions would be immediately approved and that would be the end of that."- Liam Irwin, then Irish Revenue Commissioner, evidence to the Dáil Committee, 16 May 2017There is no quantifiable risk to the EU's Single MarketNorthern Ireland's goods sales across the border are so small they will amount to a rounding error in the EU's accounts, post-Brexit.After Brexit, NI's cross-border sales will account for just 0.23% of total imports into the EU. [Sources : Eurostat | HMRC | NISRA ]0.23% is NOT any kind of threat to the integrity of the EU's Single Market.Click to enlarge chart - © Brexit Facts4EU.Org?How the EU and Irish government colluded in this deceptionThe EU and the Irish Government deliberately prevented a solution for three yearsIrish Deputy, Committee of the Dáil: "Could Mr Cody clarify whether there is a legal impediment to negotiations between us [and the UK] so we can have discussions?" Mr Niall Cody (then head of Irish Customs): "Yes."Sir Jon Thompson, Head of HMRC, evidence to Exiting the European Union Committee, 29 Nov 2017 : "There are no formal conversations with either the French or the Irish. We cannot talk to Customs or taxation management organisations in either of those countries."UK Parliament Committee question to the EU's commissioned customs expert, Lars Karlsson: "The proposal you've put here hasn't actually been tested at any location anywhere in the world."Lars Karlsson: "No that's not correct. It actually has."Peace in Northern Ireland is vital. Playing politics with that peace to punish the UK is a disgrace.OBSERVATIONSThe fundamental fact in this report is this:Just 0.23% of the EU's global imports cross the border from Northern IrelandFor this miniscule detail, the EU and Irish Governments fabricated the N.I. border issue, claiming that somehow the integrity of the entire Single Market was at stake because of Brexit.We believe the EU did so for two main reasons: 1. They wanted to punish the UK by getting it to cede control of part of its territory, and 2. It served their colonial ambitions in what would effectively be a land-grab.We believe the Irish Government colluded in this for two reasons: 1. To curry favour with Brussels, and 2. To achieve a united Ireland.As we have shown above, it was perfectly possible to establish unobtrusive new border arrangements on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic. Instead, the EU chose to fabricate a complete non-issue for its own ends.To play politics like this with such a sensitive issue is, in our view, a disgrace. Those of us who remember the decades of the Troubles know how difficult it was to reach the Good Friday Agreement. Many would still object to this Agreement on many levels, but that is a different matter.The simple fact is that relative peace was achieved. And the EU have spent the last four years putting this peace in jeopardy.Please help us to keep going with a small donation today. Monthly donations help us even more, as they allow us to plan resource. Quick and secure donation methods are below. Thank you so much for anything you can do.

[grahamite2] 20/8/2020 10:26

Staged referendum = didn't produce the result I wanted.

That's the left for you!

[bbalanjones] 20/8/2020 10:20

M2: Could be though that BoJo makes a bold move to Privatise NI, Scotland and Wales first. Any policy will do for him and his ilk.

[diku] 20/8/2020 10:17

Trump only interested in self pride and how well the Dow and Nas are doing...doesn't mention what the FED is doing...

[minerve 2] 20/8/2020 10:15

Plans by Boris Johnson’s government to pass legislation to underpin a new UK internal market after the end of the Brexit transition period will “accelerate the break-up of the Union”, the Welsh administration has said. - FT

[bbalanjones] 20/8/2020 10:07

diku: Yes! Eloquent and sadly so true regarding superfart Trump - "King o' the Swamp"

[bbalanjones] 20/8/2020 10:04

Results in 1975 for confirming Membership of EU.
Votes %
Yes 17,378,581 67.23%
No 8,470,073 32.77%
Valid votes 25,848,654 99.79%
Invalid or blank votes 54,540 0.21%
Total votes 25,903,194 100.00%
Registered voters/turnout 40,086,677 64.62%

[diku] 20/8/2020 10:04

Anybody listen to Obama speech yesterday?...eloquent statesman speech...

[bbalanjones] 20/8/2020 10:00

Stop press: Big Haircut coming for Little Englanders . . . .tick tock . .Brexit Looms!!

[utrickytrees] 20/8/2020 09:54

McClagnuts will be on soon with a few Pearl's of wisdom.

[maxk] 20/8/2020 09:38

It's a bit early, even for you Min.

[maxidi] 20/8/2020 09:15

Maybe she can't afford the fare LOL.

[geckotheglorious] 20/8/2020 08:08

Mike,

I'm surprised she doesn't simply move to the EU if she loves it that much

[geckotheglorious] 20/8/2020 08:03

If we are nearly ALL working from home and the self driving car is more or less here we have no need for Trains. Nor buses.

In fact it would be best if we priced most people off the roads imo.

Less pollution

Less aggravation.

And a drive in the country a more pleasant experience.

[xxxxxy] 20/8/2020 06:30

He is correct about HS2. And use the money more effectively.

[xxxxxy] 20/8/2020 06:29

Let's see a plan for the nationalised railwayBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: AUGUST 20, 2020Trains travel largely empty. Losses must be colossal. The railway has all the costs of the pre CV19 era, with the turnover of the post CV 19 social distancing era. Ministers need to seek a new plan and tell us how they will make the railways more useful and less costly to taxpayers.For a long time the railway has been effectively nationalised. Network Rail is completely state owned and heavily subsidised. The private sector train operating companies have to run a timetable laid down by government, under heavy regulations that leave little scope for innovation or service change. Rail pathways are strictly rationed. It is little wonder many of them struggle to survive as management has little scope to cut costs or boost revenues. Trying to get Productivity and service improvements is very difficult. There is a long tradition of industrial action against management induced change.The railway normally prevents choice for passengers and competition to reduce fares and raise quality of service. Rail operators respond to requirements imposed by Regulators. Their remuneration in part depends on targets, where it may make sense to game the rules. Quite often the train operator fails to provide a reliable on time service owing to failures of the nationalised network operator. The whole system has out of date signalling which limits the numbers of trains per hour. Monopoly providers seek to prevent new challengers competing.Instead of building a very expensive new line, HS2, the railway should accelerate digital signalling to increase capacity by around 25%. The railway needs to reconsider what sustainable travel patterns are likely in this new world and adjust services accordingly . It is difficult to see how passengers will be attracted back and better served without private capital and competition in service provision. The nationalised monopoly based model we have been running for sometime is not delivering the services and quality we want. It is now sending unaffordable bills to taxpayers.