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[jl5006] 27/6/2020 17:11

Poik 8557
I am sorry if you have suffered a loss - sadly it is the end result.
Respiratory failure resulted in many deaths being ascribed to C 19 - too easily phps.
BUT we cannot be held under wraps any longer - we have no economy you can expect little of no welfare benefits should this continue.
Those who smoked expect lung assistance at NHS cost - similarly liver disease - obese - 400 pkts of crisps a month - cant work - only the lager keeps me going.
We cant expect!

[jl5006] 27/6/2020 16:59

5xy
just as well we have a frosty ic brexit matters.
Didnt maybot give Oliver Bendable an honour?

[jl5006] 27/6/2020 16:55

poikka
A virus is s thing a doctor refers to when he cant identify a disease.
Not just your GP but any knowledgeable doctor.
Normal prescription - take paracetamol .
There is no vaccine for a virus - since just changes its shape. Phs there is an addon to a persons feeble immune system - eg HIV drugs - just reduce but rarely cure - malaria - Trump drug - mitigates.
Flu type virus happens every year and many infirm cases have flu indicated on DC. The numbers of deaths are of the order of 150k..200K.
Normally lots of reasonably healthy pick up the virus and pee it away down the toilet. But those who cant deal with it succumb - and die. Nothing new this year - yet the media used this to political adv.
I guess the normal numbers have ppeed it away down the toilet - and sewerage sample will have indicated many cases - but with no serious adverse effects.
Sorry P - should u have any concerns - stay safe - whtever that means and dont dont go out.
Pls let the sensible take the risk!!!!!

[xxxxxy] 27/6/2020 16:36

facts4euhtTps://facts4eu.org/news/2020_jun_what_trade_talks

[xxxxxy] 27/6/2020 16:34

As usual, the EU seem to want to talk about everything except tradeBritish Bulldog is back in Brussels for Brexit talks with Barnier on Monday?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020"Intensified negotiation process" involves just four hours of trade talksThis week we saw both sides in the UK-EU trade talks in typically combative mood. Michel Barnier, Chief Negotiator for the EU, gave a speech at the europhile 'European Policy Centre' in Brussels, and David Frost, Chief Negotiator for the UK, gave a robust rebuttal in a statement issued from London on Twitter.Brexit scare stories aboundLast week there were stories in the British press and rumours thatr the Government was about to cave in to EU demands. Below we present the latest positions from each side, but first we outline some of the latest facts about the talks.UK-EU trade negotiations resume on Monday with two hours discussing "the level playing field", followed by two hours on "governance". The latter relates to the EU's insistence on having the EU's own court, the ECJ, as sole arbiter of the trade deal - something which has never happened anywhere else in the world.In the whole of next week, only two 2-hour sessions will take place specifically on trade issues. As negotiations resume from Monday next week there will be :-Two hours on fisheriesTwo hours on trade in goodsTwo hours on trade in servicesMichel Barnier's speech in BrusselsReaders may gain a flavour of Michel Barnier's speech on Wednesday from the following excerpts:"We have the Brexiteers and a good part of the Tory party keeping a very hard line on full sovereignty for the UK [...] and no concessions even if it means no deal.""Even if you were to maintain tariffs on some goods [...]the EU will still demand strong level playing field guarantees."Readers wishing to watch Monsieur Barnier in full may do so below.Who was Monsieur Barnier speaking to?Michel Barnier was talking to an organisation which has given itself the rather grandiose title of "the European Policy Centre" (EPC). It refers to itself as a "think-tank" and it is based in Brussels. Where else?And who is the President of the EPC? None other than Herman Van Rompuy, former President of the EU Council. This is the man whom Nigel Farage once famously referred to as having "the appearance of a damp rag and the charisma of a low-grade bank clerk". Below we show the video of the speech which Mr Farage gave to the EU Parliament at the time.Brexit Bulldog Frost's clear rebuttal to Barnier and to media storiesThe day after Monsieur Barnier's speech in Brussels, the UK's Chief Negotiator David Frost gave his riposte using Twitter. We are publishing his short statement in full below because unlike Michel Barnier, Mr Frost doesn't use 3000 words when 200 will suffice.Statement by David Frost, London, Thur, 25 Jun 2020"The next round of talks with the EU begins on Monday 29 June. This is the start of the intensified process. We have published the agenda."For the first time since March we will meet face to face, in Brussels. We look forward to welcoming the EU team to London the week after."These meetings will be smaller and focused on seeing whether we can begin to make genuine and rapid progress towards an agreement. We will go to Brussels in good faith to engage with the EU's concerns."This needs to be a real negotiation and some of the EU's unrealistic positions will have to change if we are to move forward. We have noted carefully what the EU has said in recent days on this subject and look forward to discussing it."UK sovereignty, over our laws, our courts, or our fishing waters, is of course not up for discussion. Equally we do not seek anything which would undermine the integrity of the EU's single market."Finally, I want to be clear that the Government will not agree to ideas like the one currently circulating giving the EU a new right to retaliate with tariffs if we chose to make laws suiting our interests. We could not leave ourselves open to such unforeseeable economic risk."- David Frost, Chief Negotiator of the UK's 'Task Force Europe', Thur, Jun 25 2020OBSERVATIONSThe first thing to say is that David Frost's statement was clear and unambiguous, yet again. "UK sovereignty, over our laws, our courts, or our fishing waters, is of course not up for discussion." Well said, that man.There remains, of course, a general nervousness amongst all who voted to leave the European Union that Boris Johnson is minded to compromise in some way to achieve something he can call a 'trade deal'. We share that nervousness, based on years of seeing the UK Government betray the decision of the British people on 23 June 2016.That said, we are encouraged by some of these very clear statements from David Frost. Can anyone imagine such words coming out of the mouth of Theresa May or her arch-Remainer side-kick Olly Robbins, before Boris Johnson took over?What are the odds of a proper trade deal?Brexit Facts4EU.Org stands by our assertion from our beginnings in 2015. The EU will not do a normal and reasonable trade deal with the UK because for them this is about political ideology. They desire one thing: the subsuming of all individual nations of Europe into one superstate, governed from Brussels by unaccountable people in grey suits.Brexit was a slap in the face for these eurocrats – and it came from their second-largest member, the United Kingdom. In response, the EU apparatchiks circled the wagons and made it very clear how they were going to approach talks with the UK."This will not be an amicable divorce," declared EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker within hours of the announcement of the result on 24 June 2016. He meant it. The EU intended to punish the people of the United Kingdom in any way they could – and they still intend to do so.Isn't it time to come clean?One might have thought that if a trade deal were at all likely, the teams on each side would be talking to each other a great deal next week. Instead we get two hours on goods trade and two hours on services trade. Hardly very impressive, nor anything which could really be described as "intensified". Perhaps David Frost approved the agenda because he knew there was little point in wasting more time on areas where the EU is clearly never going to behave normally.If this carries on, there seems little point in pretending. The Government could simply announce to the world that there is no prospect whatsoever of the EU behaving reasonably. The EU is demanding continued jurisdiction over the UK. It demands the UK's waters, and it demands effective control over the UK's policies on industry, taxation, state aid, social laws, and the environment.Boris Johnson could score major brownie points with the British public – and with large parts of the EU populace come to that - if he simply went on television at the end of next week and said:"These unelected Eurocrats are quite extraordinary. It's impossible to negotiate with them, as so many other nations have found. Blow this for a game of soldiers. We're off."Hello World, Great Britain is Back!"

[xxxxxy] 27/6/2020 16:31

Mrs Merkel may have got it at lastBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JUNE 27, 2020Mrs Merkel has said the UK does not want to submit any more to the ECJ, accept all the rule making powers of the single market or be in a joint fishery. It has taken a long time to get to this perception, but better late than never.Anyone following UK politics would have grasped that the UK voters voted for Brexit to regain our independence. They voted for a pro Brexit Conservative government to confirm their wish to be independent after a difficult period of Parliament trying to oppose the will of the people. The aim was always to take back control of our laws, our borders, our  money and our fish. We did not vote to join some  EU Association  Agreement like Turkey, or to recreate UK membership of the single market from outside the EU with no vote over its laws.It has long been clear we are becoming a separate country. We are willing to have a Free Trade Agreement if the EU wants one, otherwise we will be happy to extend the tariffs they make us impose on non EU countries to them as well on departure, if that is their preference. The UK government is planning anyway to remove a whole swathe of low and fiddly tariffs for all as we leave.

[poikka] 27/6/2020 16:22

jl - "Plastic screens at Martin's pubs may be a real turn off - when is a pub not a pub."

When is a virus not a virus? When is a permanently damaged lung not a damaged lung? When is a dead partner or parent not a dead partner or parent?

When is Marstons owner guilty of putting lives at risk?

Wtf, can't folk just be a bit more patient?

When will the young realise that sometimes you have to wait for your birthday before getting a new iPhone?

[jl5006] 27/6/2020 16:10

Further civil unrest beckons on Oxford Street with BLM anarchists making trouble -
The act in USA was despicable - but there is no need to CELEBRATE it before every footie game. You demean your first stance. A one off.
Rest of is just social discontent - Continue with it and there will be real violence.
Remember footie was a game until Sterling became the noise with his leg tattoo and took this to rashford - just a teenager.
IF footie lot have such concerns then donate ALL of their ludicrous pay to assist those that they think are suffering.
Bit like Welby the hypo - they are all welcome on my home - referring to migrant kids - he took in no one

[freddie01] 27/6/2020 16:04

Liverpool police chief ourside Anfield: ''these scenes are disgraceful. I'm not putting up with this every 30 years''

[jl5006] 27/6/2020 15:18

BTW - alleged martin will not impose - he needs to come out with it.
Plastic screens at Martin's pubs may be a real turn off - when is a pub not a pub.

[jl5006] 27/6/2020 15:13

Well done marstons -their CEO Ralph Findlay 2 fingered comment - just come into our pubs - lean on the bar if you wish - u can put your ID on the register if you wish
Our employees can wear PPE if they wish. Article in Sat D mail.
Come on Tim Martin - be bold and do the same - get away from PHE rules madness!

[paleales] 27/6/2020 14:31

SocGen, Suisse, Peel Hunt , Goldman sachs TOP PICKS for July recovery
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[mikemichael2] 27/6/2020 13:37

We could organise a boring old git march, plenty on here!!!

[k38] 27/6/2020 13:25

The Jewish Labour Movement - which has led calls for a crackdown on anti-Semitism in Labour's ranks - welcomed Sir Keir's decision to sack Mrs Long-Bailey.National chairman Mike Katz said: "We have consistently maintained that the pervasive culture of anti-Semitism, bullying and intimidation can only be tackled by strong and decisive leadership...FEAR IS WORKING. Now they shut up you forever. ...Former shadow chancellor John McDonnell, who supported her leadership bid, said: "Throughout discussion of anti-Semitism it's always been said criticism of practices of Israeli state is not anti-Semitic. "I don't believe therefore that this article is or Rebecca Long-Bailey should've been sacked. I stand in solidarity with her."...I AGREE with John McDonnell!!

[jimarilo] 27/6/2020 13:23

Boris welcomes on twitter LGBTXWYZ pride march today

Couldn't make it up, after blasting those on the beach

Apparently the lock down only applies to those that are white and straight

[xxxxxy] 27/6/2020 13:08

Well done David Frost. He has repeated a clear UK position. We are leaving the single market as we leave the EU as both Leave and Renain said we would. No more rule from the European Court.John Redwood

[minerve 2] 27/6/2020 12:22

Coronavirus: Lockdown flypast marks Armed Forces Day




Anyone notice?

LOL

More important things to think about.

[minerve 2] 27/6/2020 12:20

Sore country

[maxk] 27/6/2020 12:12

Afternoon Min.

Sore head?

[minerve 2] 27/6/2020 12:08

Baby Boomer Bozos.