Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[jl5006] 05/6/2020 23:56

Sorry 5xy
We gave up the job years ago.
If we cannot produce it economically then sadly it may be elsewhere

[buywell3] 05/6/2020 22:21

Covid-19 takes approx. 2 to 3 weeks to work its way through the human chain to become a bigger noticeable spike in cases that could force Government actions again regarding another lockdown.

In Latin America cases continue to rise alarmingly in many countries

In India likewise

In Russia , Turkey and in Iran case numbers are worryingly high

Worldwide case numbers are set to hit 7M within 4 days from now and at the rate they are rising at well over 130,000 a day now , larger daily cases than a week or say back, now look set to hit 10M by the end of june , with over 500K deaths to follow a week or two later.

The problem is that many people on mechanical ventilators have to stay in Intensive Care Units for over 4 weeks , and there were only circa 4,173 ICU beds in ICU's in the NHS as the virus hit , with corresponding numbers of ICU nurses which the NHS planned to be on a ratio of 1 to 1 , plus extra staff to cover leave, sickness and shifts .

In the USA the lockdowns have been released , social distancing was supposed to continue and wearing of masks in most states.

But social unrest / riots and looting have meant a return to old ways has come within days in many states and rising.

14 days as of now buywell expects the USA case numbers to start rising alarmingly once more .

What will Americans do when another lockdown is imposed upon them in their present mood ?

What will Trump do ? , buywell thinks nothing as he will leave it to state Governors

IF no second lockdown comes in many states , as buywell believes, then a second wave begins or in fact ADDS to the first wave which is still growing Globally and has NOT flatlined in America.

A second wave which will see much worse case numbers and deaths that has been seen to date

IMO dyor

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 22:11

Anon Anon5 Jun 2020 8:48PMYou still actually believe that a deal is a good thing for the U.K.The deficit is the proof of failure. A net £60bn deficit shows the single market has not worked for the U.K.. If that is the result of frictionless trade - why would we want that? The deficit actually hides an even worse story for the Eu as many of our exports are commodities like oil and many of our imports are luxuries like German cars. Commodities have to be bought- luxuries don't.Barriers will improve the U.K. economy as that £60bn will allow for significant substitution.On defence and intelligence: our population long since gave up the desire to be the worlds policeman. We are largely unloved in the wider world and in many parts actively disliked. Why should we be involved in places like the Middle East and the Ukraine? Europe needs the Middle East oil and Russia is simply not a threat to the U.K.So apart from our political class wanting to walk the world with a feeling of importance and some existing intrenched businesses wanting an easy ride why do we want a deal?

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 22:07

EU Survivor5 Jun 2020 10:02PMEU beginning to accept that the Uk will not ask for an extension in June... so now suggesting October!The weakness of the EU, that we have all seen cbefore, when the UK has tried to take them to the wire, is there once again... but this time Starmer, Benn, Kinnock and co will not be able to tell the EU they will stymie Parliament, and force an extension - allowing the EU to get off the hook.The UK should refuse to continue talks if the EU has not made major concessions by end of June.

[diku] 05/6/2020 22:01

Still lagging behind...should be around 40p by now...today US unemployment figures were down so Dow rallies...when are UK unemployment figures?...if they come in lower it will good for LLoy as a domestic bank...

[diku] 05/6/2020 21:54

No chance or else 100bln shares in issue...




It's a shame that divi wasn't converted into shares at the dip of the trough.

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:17

United Kingdom since 1 February 2020 (EU - UK FTA). If agreed, it will enter into force after the end the transitional arrangements set out in the Withdrawal Agreement. The Johnson government has set a target date of 31st December 2020 for the end of the transitional arrangements.htTps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_free_trade_agreements

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:14

WTO. It's coming.htTps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:06

531. Strong point.China cannot be trusted with anything in /of the UK.Loss of trust. End of.

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:01

Don't trust China. Don't trust EUSSR.Twist and turn law. Twist and turn audits.We have left the EUSSR. Outside. Great. Stop pretending we are inside. Complete that independent sovereign BREXIT.See the world as it really is. No Deal

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 20:56

Mark BPosted June 5, 2020 at 5:30 am | PermalinkGood morningThe Chinese government signed a legally binding treaty with the UK. If it cannot be trusted to keep its word on this, then it cannot be trusted on anything.

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 20:54

Ian WraggPosted June 5, 2020 at 5:50 am | PermalinkChina is a pariah state and should be treated as such. Trump as usual is ahead of the game much to the annoyance of the BBC.Letting China take control of large parts of our power network and commications is an act of unbridled stupidity.Get the country working again and stop these silly games.If you don't get a handle on this cross channel ferry service you will lose all the so called red wall at the next election. Farage will se to that.

[jl5006] 05/6/2020 20:18

China
it was a loan and not a grant.
have u looked at BASF BS?

[chinahere] 05/6/2020 20:13

Mmmm. I only hope that it was a shrewd loan and we will be able to grasp the assets should they prefer to leave and take the money.

[mr.elbee] 05/6/2020 20:11

they are JEERRRRRMANS china

nuff said.

[ianood] 05/6/2020 20:09

jl5006 - To say nothing of our prepared salads being washed in chlorinated water!!

[chinahere] 05/6/2020 20:08

Just read that BASF got a £1 billion loan but they only employ around 850 people in the UK - how is that right!?

[ianood] 05/6/2020 20:05

xxxxxy - I hope you don't mind but I have copied your HSBC article to the HSBC board. All the best Ianood

[thomstar] 05/6/2020 19:16

Best friday for a while (capping off a good week) aside from a couple of AIM dogs , portfolio looking at bit healthier now

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 18:45

Previous. Long articlehtTps://www.brexit-watch.org/exactly-who-are-we-trying-to-protect

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 18:40

HSBC. 300000+ could be heading to UK soon. ...Robert Morgan5 Jun 2020 1:08PMPerhaps it will choose to be a bank somewhere other than the U.K. or HK? The Bank reviews its Group domicile every five years as a matter of course, and there are certainly other contenders. The U.K. has hardly done the bank any favours in the last ten years and being hounded by the British press for being one of the largest contributors to HMRC's purse is a privilege that I'm sure would be gladly relinquished. There was a time not so long ago that spinning off the U.K. entity was being touted as a way to avoid some of the ridiculous punitive tax proposals that emerged following the financial crisis. China might turn out to be a friendlier bed-fellow than Britain, and remember where the HSBC shareholder centre of gravity sits: the U.K. was originally just a bolt-hole designed in the late eighties to hedge against the risk of disruption of the 1997 HK handover to China. This hedge may have run its course....LikeReplyPaula Hill5 Jun 2020 1:21PM@Robert Morgan Well then....byeee.....and shut the door your way out, there's a good chap.2LikeReplyjonathan steel5 Jun 2020 2:22PM@Robert Morgan I suspect quite a few of HSBC's wealthier shareholders with UK passports will shortly prefer to relocate to the UK.LikeReplyCheryl Davies5 Jun 2020 5:05PM@jonathan steel @Robert Morgan Very true

[jl5006] 05/6/2020 18:32

EU we want what we want -but we are broke
We ignore the fact we are broke and insist we want what we want.
The estate agent will take the sign down - bcos there are no bidders for the EU we want.
Is the auction just WTO.
Soon to be seen

[maxidi] 05/6/2020 17:41

EU blackmail... If you don't do what we ask we will allow all refugees to go to UK and refuse their return.
Surely that is not only blackmail it is also against EU rules about the first safe country. Which is of course France/ Belgium/Greece/Spain/Italy.

The EU has lately showed it's true colours. They are a disgusting shower of pigs and the world will be watching what a fascist little empire the EU has turned into.
The sooner it's wrapped up the sooner Europe can get back to being a group of independent countries free to trade with whoever they choose. With their own currencies. After living in France for 7 years my eyes were opened to what the future held and we decided it was not for us so we quickly sold up and returned. What a good decision that was. We now see property prices in the south west have nearly halved and people still can't sell.