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[mr.elbee] 06/6/2020 11:56

last paragraph

oh, yes you can John

That was and is the plan all along.

[xxxxxy] 06/6/2020 11:45

Some questions on the virusBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JUNE 6, 2020We are waiting for the science to catch up with events. It is clearly not easy understanding and combatting a  new virus in a hurry, when crucial information has to come from patients suffering from the disease willing to submit to various treatments to see what happens. We have, however, had all too many cases and deaths, so soon perhaps more knowledge will be forthcoming.We need to know, for example, whether any of the proposed existing licenced medicines for other complaints can help alleviate symptoms, ease severity or reduce the time the illness lasts. The UK has now approved remdesivir, but there are other remedies taken on their own or with others that might help. We need an update.There is the question of the Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine. This is going into production before the results of clinical trials. We are told there may be results early autumn. There are also other vaccine hopes around the world.The UK has  now  been testing random samples to represent the population as a whole to find out infection rates. This should enable a more accurate R or transmission rate to be calculated. When will we see proper graphs and charts of these  numbers with a better evidence base for R? This could be helpful in making decisions about the  pace of further easing, which is much needed for the sake of livelihoods.What is the expert view on why the new case rate and death rate has stayed as high as it has during a strong lock down? Shouldn't they have subsided more. How was the virus  being transmitted during this period? Can we now use track and test to head off further  localised outbreaks?Are we now in  the position where too many deaths are  being attributed to CV 19 when it is not even known whether some had the disease or not, or when they also had other serious conditions that might have been the true cause? How comparable are our figures with other counties, that follow different criteria for reporting deaths?Much now rests on making a success of test and trace. That requires the willing collaboration of the public, taking tests if and when they develop covid like symptoms they do not normally suffer. It needs the rest to agree to self isolate if they have been in close contact with someone who has the disease.We cannot keep the whole country in  lockdown for more months, with just the NHS and a few basics up and running. It was possible to borrow and print the money for a couple of months, but it does not work if you try to do that as a  new lifestyle with no limit on the cash .

[maxk] 06/6/2020 11:42

And dont even mention caste.

[alphorn] 06/6/2020 11:39

mm2 - "Maybe we just don't 'get on'"

One of my lasting memories of years working in Africa was the extreme level of hatred between some tribes. Horrible, especially when you see someone killed a few feet in front of you and you are on foot. So not just about colour.

[mikemichael2] 06/6/2020 10:59

I know it is not just 'black' people protesting, however they are protesting about black and mixed race issues.

As i say, just what do they want ?

Maybe we just don't 'get on'

[azalea] 06/6/2020 10:09

freddie01 -543
Its only a matter of time, and not long at that.

[azalea] 06/6/2020 10:06

maxk
The quote did not originate with Barnier, it belongs unequivocally to Theresa May.
Barnier talks of a 'level playing field' does that mean his new masters will agree to match EU and UK exports to each other; despite the EU, currently enjoying a surplus of billions of euros? Like hell they will.

Barnier facetiously reminded the UK government and others, that the political declaration was reproduced in several languages -including English. He should be reminded that the document was not a legally binding document, only the Withdrawal Agreement had it been passed in the UK parliament, would have been legally binding: thank heavens it was rejected by parliament, three times.
Boris has staked his premiership on there being no 'extension'. If he fails in taking the UK out of the EU with no strings attached, he could face the same fate. Everything about Boris says he will deliver on his political promises to at least 17.4 million people.

[freddie01] 06/6/2020 09:41

Nothing to do with Brexit I'm afraid. They do hate the Government and Police but it's more about their self-entitlement.

[poikka] 06/6/2020 09:01

Not just "black" protesters, mm2. It's not their skin colour that determines their approach; for most of them, its their dislike of this government and Brexit and police.

Why on earth we should be exhorted to wear masks, and practice social distancing, and hygiene measures, when these baying mobs couldn't give a toss for others' lives - black or white - is a question none of them would be able to answer.

Just as well that some of us care for a respectful society, or we'd all be down with the bug, and no-one would be able to get medical care for anything.

[mikemichael2] 06/6/2020 08:35

I see there are going to be mass protests this weekend,What exactly do the black protesters want ?

[freddie01] 06/6/2020 07:36

Why has the Lloyds share price lagged the FTSE 100’s recovery?

Could the Lloyds Banking Group PLC (LON:LLOY) (LLOY.L) share price narrow the gap versus the FTSE 100 (INDEXFTSE:UKX)?

[xxxxxy] 06/6/2020 07:11

Brexit trade talks: "It's an EU knockout – Barnier reeling""We must punch through the EU's paper bag"?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020Summary & analysis shows how the EU is having to retrench under the Bulldog's onslaughtYesterday marked the end of the final round of the UK-EU trade talks before the initial end-of-June deadline. As usual the end was accompanied by stalemate and with the usual and seemingly-interminable accusations from the EU's Monsieur Barnier.Below is our regular summary of the two sides' closing statements, but we start this weekend with a different perspective for readers.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYTop UK legal expert does not mince his wordsNo question of "splitting things down the middle"EU Commission's approach is "an erroneous EU thought experiment""At odds with the fundamental international law right of the self-determination of peoples""Contrary to international practice on trade agreements""An extraordinary and unprecedented suggestion - even a hostile one"Full article htTps://facts4eu.org/news/2020_jun_eu_reeling

[jl5006] 05/6/2020 23:56

Sorry 5xy
We gave up the job years ago.
If we cannot produce it economically then sadly it may be elsewhere

[buywell3] 05/6/2020 22:21

Covid-19 takes approx. 2 to 3 weeks to work its way through the human chain to become a bigger noticeable spike in cases that could force Government actions again regarding another lockdown.

In Latin America cases continue to rise alarmingly in many countries

In India likewise

In Russia , Turkey and in Iran case numbers are worryingly high

Worldwide case numbers are set to hit 7M within 4 days from now and at the rate they are rising at well over 130,000 a day now , larger daily cases than a week or say back, now look set to hit 10M by the end of june , with over 500K deaths to follow a week or two later.

The problem is that many people on mechanical ventilators have to stay in Intensive Care Units for over 4 weeks , and there were only circa 4,173 ICU beds in ICU's in the NHS as the virus hit , with corresponding numbers of ICU nurses which the NHS planned to be on a ratio of 1 to 1 , plus extra staff to cover leave, sickness and shifts .

In the USA the lockdowns have been released , social distancing was supposed to continue and wearing of masks in most states.

But social unrest / riots and looting have meant a return to old ways has come within days in many states and rising.

14 days as of now buywell expects the USA case numbers to start rising alarmingly once more .

What will Americans do when another lockdown is imposed upon them in their present mood ?

What will Trump do ? , buywell thinks nothing as he will leave it to state Governors

IF no second lockdown comes in many states , as buywell believes, then a second wave begins or in fact ADDS to the first wave which is still growing Globally and has NOT flatlined in America.

A second wave which will see much worse case numbers and deaths that has been seen to date

IMO dyor

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 22:11

Anon Anon5 Jun 2020 8:48PMYou still actually believe that a deal is a good thing for the U.K.The deficit is the proof of failure. A net £60bn deficit shows the single market has not worked for the U.K.. If that is the result of frictionless trade - why would we want that? The deficit actually hides an even worse story for the Eu as many of our exports are commodities like oil and many of our imports are luxuries like German cars. Commodities have to be bought- luxuries don't.Barriers will improve the U.K. economy as that £60bn will allow for significant substitution.On defence and intelligence: our population long since gave up the desire to be the worlds policeman. We are largely unloved in the wider world and in many parts actively disliked. Why should we be involved in places like the Middle East and the Ukraine? Europe needs the Middle East oil and Russia is simply not a threat to the U.K.So apart from our political class wanting to walk the world with a feeling of importance and some existing intrenched businesses wanting an easy ride why do we want a deal?

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 22:07

EU Survivor5 Jun 2020 10:02PMEU beginning to accept that the Uk will not ask for an extension in June... so now suggesting October!The weakness of the EU, that we have all seen cbefore, when the UK has tried to take them to the wire, is there once again... but this time Starmer, Benn, Kinnock and co will not be able to tell the EU they will stymie Parliament, and force an extension - allowing the EU to get off the hook.The UK should refuse to continue talks if the EU has not made major concessions by end of June.

[diku] 05/6/2020 22:01

Still lagging behind...should be around 40p by now...today US unemployment figures were down so Dow rallies...when are UK unemployment figures?...if they come in lower it will good for LLoy as a domestic bank...

[diku] 05/6/2020 21:54

No chance or else 100bln shares in issue...




It's a shame that divi wasn't converted into shares at the dip of the trough.

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:17

United Kingdom since 1 February 2020 (EU - UK FTA). If agreed, it will enter into force after the end the transitional arrangements set out in the Withdrawal Agreement. The Johnson government has set a target date of 31st December 2020 for the end of the transitional arrangements.htTps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_free_trade_agreements

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:14

WTO. It's coming.htTps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:06

531. Strong point.China cannot be trusted with anything in /of the UK.Loss of trust. End of.