Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[ignoble] 09/4/2020 12:23

Nope
An argument that I have been having for ages.....
Why one and not the other

Maybe, smoking is a choice but once hooked, very difficult to stop
Alcohol ditto..

Fags and Booze vital for the economy..

[ignoble] 09/4/2020 11:51

We are not hearing much about the Locust plagues in Africa
Billions of them eating everything

A swarm the size of Luxembourg is being reported...

[ladeside] 09/4/2020 11:45

Always the way of it Mike.

[mikemichael2] 09/4/2020 11:44

When this is all over there will be massive debt to pay back or write off, it will be the poor and average joe who will take the worst of it. The mega rich and rich need to step up or made to.

[aljm] 09/4/2020 11:34

Elbee, i wouldnt say nothing, but sooner or later it will be exposed as been blown out of all proportion, mainly by the MSM, the truth has to come out, personally i think Boris is going to bounce off all this, i think he is going to be even more popular than ever, Labour are doomed to fail, we CANNOT have them in , and i dont see how they could ever get in.

[squire007] 09/4/2020 11:34

If your isa is not getting filled with Lloyds you need to think - long term winner

[crossing_the_rubicon] 09/4/2020 11:32

@Aljm,

Tend to agree. Rioting, civil disorder and civil war inevitable across much of the world.

This is only phase 1 of the virus.
Food shortages are coming

Then we get phase 2 of the virus once malnutrition,hunger have set in.

Soaring unemployment, food shortages and a far less hardy/more entitled populace many of whom havent a clue how to grow anything will look for an easy out - stealing.

[mr.elbee] 09/4/2020 11:31

I wish you were right aljm

but you are not...

Boris and his government will be trashed as more and more people realise that this panic was all for nothing.

and the NL Keir waits in the wings.

[aljm] 09/4/2020 11:28

Starmer is a non starter to me, Keir is a member of the Fabian Society's executive committee and joins the long line of Labour leaders who have been prominent Fabians.

Starmer's history is 'chequered' to put it mildly,i cannot see Labour being anywhere near good enough for voters to return to them......

[gbh2] 09/4/2020 11:27

Not to worry guys, company directors are still Filling their pockets, even those who have taken a cut in pay are still on 4 figures & helping themselves to cheap shares!

[bargainbob] 09/4/2020 11:26

Gordon Brown trail well covered.

[ladeside] 09/4/2020 11:24

Starmer is as far right in his views as many Conservatives, I seriously can't believe people are already trying to paint him as some unelectable communist. (well, actually I can).

[aljm] 09/4/2020 11:23

CtR , honestly , i think that is all coming anyway.....

We already have Civil Disorder, you just got to see how many people that are mocking the lockdown, and people going to 'places of worship' taking no notice whatsoever.....

[gbh2] 09/4/2020 11:23

atjm, he couldn't possibly be any worse!

[crossing_the_rubicon] 09/4/2020 11:17

"mr.elbee9 Apr '20 - 10:43 - 9035 of 9035
the mass unemployment will stop the inflation mitchy"

And cause an even worse problem, rioting, civil disorder and who knows what.

[ignoble] 09/4/2020 11:13

Odd that Bats are a protected species in the UK
Might need to rethink that...

[patientcapital] 09/4/2020 11:13

Why not an enduring supertax on tobacco and booze companies? Maybe on confectioners as well. Smoking, alcohol and obesity being considerable burdens on the NHS.

[maxk] 09/4/2020 11:07

Old Nick has a room set aside for you Pierre.

[mr.elbee] 09/4/2020 10:43

the mass unemployment will stop the inflation mitchy

[pierre oreilly] 09/4/2020 10:41

I get the feeling the only response for daring to question the 'save the nhs' 'flatten the curve' orthodoxy will be a bowl of hemlock pushed my way.

[mikemichael2] 09/4/2020 10:41

One off 'super tax' on the mega rich scumbags who have been piling it away over the past years, anyone with assets over 10 million for a start.

[cheshire pete] 09/4/2020 10:03

How about getting the WHO or whoever to improve food safety standards worldwide and eliminate unhygienic practices that are thought to have been the cause of the virus, putting to one side the various conspiracy and other theories.

[pierre oreilly] 09/4/2020 09:58

My issue is that there's no doubt that certain areas of the country are being overwhelmed with the virus which is causing a strain on hospitals and frontline NHS staff, as such it's imperative that we allow our health system to cope and the lockdown measures are effectively buying us time.

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Agree nhs overwhelmed, and likely to become more so.



Disagree that it is imperative to not let the nhs to 'cope'. Firstly because they won't and can't 'cope' (by which i mean treat every patient, or even every patient who would be treated under normal criteria, ex covid).

It depende on whether the costs to society of the nhs 'coping' is less than the benefit of the nhs 'coping'. That is merely a statement of the obvious isn't it?

If the nhs by 'coping' saves say 10,000 lives which would otherwise not be saved if they didn't 'cope', but the consequential deaths due to the measures necessary to enable them to 'cope' eventually results in 20,000 extra deaths, then which is the more sensible.?

In fact, the resultant loss of life due to the measures to enable the nhs to cope have been scientificlly quantified by experts to be a cost on average of 3 months life off everybody in the uk, being 70m times 0.25 years of life = 18,000,000 years of human life.

By nhs 'coping', each life saved who would otherwise not be saved will in any case die withing 3 months (those are the figures from some virus prof explaining the demographics of those likley to die from the virus (i.e ill or old). So save 20,000 of those, that gives years of human life saved 20,000 times 0.25 = 5000 human years of life.

So which is best - and this is the real and only choice you have - save 5000 human years of life or save 18,000,000 years of human life? Or just best not to think about it?

Just tbc, you save 5000 human years by doing ehat we are doing (great life eh?) or we save 18,000,000 human years by doing errr absolutely nothing and carry on exactly as normal - no lockdown, no pubs shut, no flights cancelled etc etc.

[aljm] 09/4/2020 09:55

ignoble , you think Starmer is any better ?