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[k38] 17/10/2019 22:58

Lol... agree, just because I know I am right.

[minerve 2] 17/10/2019 22:54

k38

"Remember to thanks brexiteers in the near future..;))"

Near future isn't long enough to judge, but OK, I will, if things genuinely improve over the next decade proven to be due to Brexit.

Of course, there is an opposite side to the equation, which means you will have to bow and swear your allegiance to the oracle that is Minerve!

Agreed?

[k38] 17/10/2019 22:50

M2 You know well, getting out of this trap it's a blessing. Remember to thanks brexiteers in the near future..;))

[minerve 2] 17/10/2019 22:39

Pierre

It wasn't me you dork.

By the way, as I have said, Juncker is speaking out of turn. It isn't up to him with regards to extension, that'll be down to Tusk. Juncker is obviously tired and fed-up with the whole thing, one can't blame him, but not to worry, he is replaced with new energy 1st November.

[minerve 2] 17/10/2019 22:36

k38

In this particular case I was referring to the ramifications of Brexit as the cancer. I describe it as such because many of the ramifications will be long-term in nature, hidden and it will be incredibly difficult to do anything about them once the symptoms are showing without involving major societal disruption.

[pierre oreilly] 17/10/2019 22:26

Junker et al seem very pleased to get rid of the uk. A couple of weeks ago when i suggested they'd want to get rid of the uk and our 29 brexit meps, someone thought i was stupid since they'd want us in for as long as possible to keep getting our money. Someone, can't remember who but probably minny, should be eating humble pie.

[aceuk] 17/10/2019 22:25

Stones sink because they are a bit dense ….

[excell1] 17/10/2019 22:18

Any thing yet on the Law.Does the EU still have the highest court? Hopefully not.
One thing I would like to see through from the Queens speech is the points based system for immigration.

[pierre oreilly] 17/10/2019 22:11

Jo swinson thinks the boris deal is quite different from May's deal. She says it's much worse. Mind you, like everyone commenting, she hasn't read analysed and understood it in detail. And whatever the agreement says, she'd say exactly the same thing.

One major difference between may's deal is the removal of the possibility of a border at the border between n and s ireland, maintaining our governments good friday agreement with our irish friends.

[xxxxxy] 17/10/2019 22:09

I love The QueenI love BorisI love Nigel Farage.Let's LEAVE the Anti-democratic Evil EUSSR

[xxxxxy] 17/10/2019 22:06

MOMENTUM is BADLABOUR is BADCORBYN is BADLEAVE and LEAVE and LEAVE

[xxxxxy] 17/10/2019 22:05

Corbyn is Gibberish.Give Democracy and Freedom a chance.LEAVE and LEAVE and LEAVE

[leoneobull] 17/10/2019 22:00

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-brexit-deal-brussels-european-union-juncker-tusk-house-of-commons-a9160606.htmlHilarious

[grahamite2] 17/10/2019 21:59

Poikka 17 Oct '19 - 17:40 - 279046 of 279082
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Some of the questions answered.



There's only one question I want an answer to, and an answer from someone of the calibre of Steve Baker or Mark Francois: in what material ways is this enough of an improvement on Mrs May's deal for us to support it?

The Daily Telegraph should run such an article.

[diku] 17/10/2019 21:31

Monday will be key...either it rises 10% to around 67p or 10% down to 54p...

[onjohn] 17/10/2019 21:23

This is going too tank tomorrow

[k38] 17/10/2019 21:00

M2Cancer don't recognize age.. remember that when your time comes. lol

[minerve 2] 17/10/2019 20:56

Aceuk

Brexiters will never need to worry because most will be dead by the time the cancer has metastasized and shown symptoms. Another problem they heap onto our youth. What a disgraceful generation.

[poikka] 17/10/2019 20:51

I think that Ace is upset, probably because he wanted to Remain.

[poikka] 17/10/2019 20:50

Some key questions still remain, Rubi, and I can only hope that once we're really out we can address things like fishing and defence, not to mention the ECoJ!

This from the beeb:

"Some things have not changed:

Much of Mrs May's original Brexit deal will remain as part of the overall agreement. Some of the key areas are:

Transition

The transition - a period of time during which all of the current rules stay the same allowing the UK and the EU to negotiate their future relationship - is due to last until the end of December 2020.

The UK will need to abide by EU rules and pay into the EU budget, but will lose membership of its institutions.

The transition can be extended, but only for a period of one or two years.

Both the UK and EU must agree to any extension.

Citizens' rights

UK citizens in the EU, and EU citizens in the UK, will retain their residency and social security rights after Brexit.

Freedom of movement rules will continue to apply during transition. This means that UK nationals will be able to live and work in EU countries (and EU nationals will be able to live and work in UK) during this period.

Anyone who remains in the same EU country for five years will be allowed to apply for permanent residence.

Money

The UK will have to settle its financial obligations to the EU.

There is no precise figure but the biggest part of this "divorce bill" will be the UK contributions to the 2019 and 2020 EU budgets.

As Brexit was delayed from 29 March to 31 October 2019, some of that money has been paid as part of the UK's normal membership contributions already. The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) estimates that the bill is now around £33bn (down from £39bn).

The OBR expects that most of the money - around three-quarters of the total - would be paid by 2022, with some relatively small payments still being made in the 2060s (WHADYA SAY!).

Future UK/EU relationship

This is addressed in the political declaration. This text, which is not legally binding, has also been revised by UK/EU negotiators.

It says that both sides will work towards a Free Trade Agreement (FTA) and a high-level meeting will be convened in June 2020 to take stock of progress towards this goal.

The text also contains a new paragraph on the so-called "level playing field" - the degree to which the UK will agree to stick closely to EU regulations in the future.

While the references to a "level playing field" were removed from the legally binding withdrawal agreement, the revised political declaration says that the UK and the EU should "uphold the common high standards […] in the areas of state aid, competition, social and employment standards, environment, climate change, and relevant tax matters"."