Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[lippy4] 26/8/2019 22:46

alphorn

why do you worry about good old uk as you are one of the many who have left these shores to set up your home else where.

i do find it amusing almost annoying that you think you still have a say about our country when you do not live here and do not contribute to our taxes directly..

when you see the problems that the swiss are having with the leviethan eu who wants to control every thing on the european land mass with a backward view of democracy,you must obey the eu state and the swiss are telling them at the moment to sod off which i think is wonderful..

you are not a true swiss as they the normal citizens do not want more over bearing eu rules to run their lives and i know how they feel...

[sentimentrules] 26/8/2019 22:42

Labour have signalled pro EU.. .Brexit party can't consider coalition there.

Careful, Tories losing votes to brexit party wont be half as many as Labour do...so that's no concern

[sentimentrules] 26/8/2019 22:40

If a coalition is required, brexit party and Tories. Regardless who the majority of those two would be. Can't see any other happening.

Labour kicked the SNP into touch. The greens and lib dems wont get the seats needed to be considered. Absolutely no chance of Labour, greens, libs being able to form

[cheshire pete] 26/8/2019 22:37

A risk I'd be prepared to take careful. Leaving the EU is permanent, elected governments are temporary. Corbyn wouldn't last long.

[sentimentrules] 26/8/2019 22:36

A good start...up a bit on the futures..the mislead is right direction

[sentimentrules] 26/8/2019 22:33

Absolutely tory. Without fail. I know many a voter who were Labour all their life's, going to vote Tory.

Brexit Party will get votes if Boris fails. Many a Tory voter would do that.

But I dont see him in coalition with Corbyn...therr is no commonality there at all

[careful] 26/8/2019 22:30

When the election comes you will vote to stop Corbyn I hope.

Corybn is a bigger danger that any sort of Brexit.

If you vote for Farage you could let Labour in.

[sentimentrules] 26/8/2019 22:22

EU sentiment this week.. any gains down the pan haha

[cheshire pete] 26/8/2019 22:20

maxk: "Any election whilst still in = guaranteed death for the tory party.

Election after leaving properly = guaranteed win for the tory's."

Absolutely maxk: If the election is called before we're out it will be a cop out, a la May, and I'll vote for the Brexit Party. If Boris calls it after we've left, I'll vote Tory.

The Remainers haven't said what their latest plan to stop leaving with no deal is lol.

[mikemichael2] 26/8/2019 21:15

I think we might get away from the 50p grasp this week.

[xxxxxy] 26/8/2019 21:05

Paul Reynolds 26 Aug 2019 2:04PMSterling looks like a very crowded short. Taking some chips off the table and some profits is simply smart thinking. For the UK, the upside seems much more clear now with large trading nations offering to quickly fill the commerce gap that the EU seems willing to relinquish. 

[maxk] 26/8/2019 20:46

Boris Johnson says he's 'marginally more optimistic' about a deal but will not rule out suspending parliament



Edward Malnick, in biarritz Danielle Sheridan, political correspondent
26 AUGUST 2019 • 6:32PM


Boris Johnson said he was “marginally more optimistic” about a deal but would not rule out suspending parliament in order to leave on October 31.

Speaking this evening as the G7 summit of world leaders came to a close, Mr Johnson said “I am marginally more optimistic” when asked about a possible Brexit deal.

"But, remember that all statistical estimates that I give about the chances of a deal - whether they are expressed in odds of millions to one, or getting closer, or hotter or colder, or whatever - they all depend exclusively on the willingness of our friends and partners to compromise on that crucial point and to get rid of the backstop and the current withdrawal agreement,” he said.

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[maxk] 26/8/2019 20:37

Oh, and barriers are not going to be onerous, that works both ways.

[maxk] 26/8/2019 20:36

Alp.

You know what happens between leaving and "deals"


WTO, of which we are members in our own right, and not through the €U with it's restrictions and tarrif barriers. Problems, sure! But insurmountable? No!

[alphorn] 26/8/2019 19:50

You misread me Careful. The window will not be painless...…………...and I am certainly not gullible! ;)

(Risk and reward are bedfellows).

[careful] 26/8/2019 19:44

You talk as though you believe a trade deal automatically results in trade.

It may help if we are already trading with a particular country and tariffs are reduced or removed.
But it takes years to build up trade.

The World trade we have now is established and has been built up over decades.

The risk now is that our largest trading partner the eu. where we do not any trade restrictions or any trade deal at all, it is a free frictionless trade relationship, is about to be disrupted.

If politicians lull you into thinking any disruption will be painless by making you believe there is a great future to there, do not be gullible.

We shall leave the eu. and be independent as many wish.

But there will be a price to pay, and it is possible we shall never be as relatively wealthy as we are right now.
Some say such sacrifice is worth it.
Usually those who will not be effected by it.

These are very risky times.

[alphorn] 26/8/2019 19:17

It is a gamble Max. There are high chances IMO of a UK recession, plus with the best will in the world the earliest dates for any trade agreements are out at least one year. What happens in between?
I certainly would not be counting any chickens. IMO there will be a long window when the vultures will circle.

edit: before any idiotic comments, you have optimism, realism and pessimism. Try for the middle as a starter.

[careful] 26/8/2019 19:15

Germany are being hit from all sides.

USA getting tough, China slowing, No deal Brexit possible.

[xxxxxy] 26/8/2019 19:14

Boycott goods and product of the EUSSR. Particularly target Germany

[xxxxxy] 26/8/2019 19:13

Tom Armstrong 26 Aug 2019 1:21PMThe problem for Germany is that this is not a temporary downturn - it's almost certainly permanant.  Germany has an old fashioned, largely mid-tech metal-bashing economy that is now facing what is probably a perfect storm.Much of what it produces is not really that good, unreliable and easily replicable.  China is now doing just that, often now producing better, more reliable products more cheaply.  Germany has relied heavily on China, but those days are fading.At one time most cars you saw on Chinese roads were German.  That is no longer the case.  You see many other brands, and the luxury car of choice is now a Range Rover.  Chinese brand cars are now very good and taking an increasing share of the market.Also, across the world, people are disgusted at the cheating of emissions and mileage, and are therefore boycotting German cars.Germany is also increasingly seen as a parasite on the world economy and is attracting increasing dislike, within and without the EU.  Again, many folk are boycotting German goods - and powerful folk like Trump are looking closely at Germany, including its refusal to spend money on its own defence.Together with the tensions in German society, I just cannot see it maintaining the status it has enjoyed over the last 20 years or so.

[careful] 26/8/2019 19:12

My big fear in the upcoming election is Corbyn or any coalition led by him.

I will be forced to vote Tory under all circumstances.

[careful] 26/8/2019 19:09

Interesting at the G7 meetings.
Everyone is talking about trade deals.

The EU. are talking to America about a mega trade deal. The previous largest trade deal was between the EU. Japan and other Asian countries.

I hope post Brexit we do not get squeezed by the mighty trading blocks, EU. America, China.
The big 3. About $20 TR. GDP each.

Are we going to be pushed around by the giants?

(We have been talking to Australia)

[maxk] 26/8/2019 19:08

Out, free of all €uropean laws and influence, restoration of UK gov supremacy.

Quite simply really. The details come afterward.