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[bbalanjones] 04/4/2019 08:37

Step back a little and take a look . . . . . .

Study shows how school textbooks in Germany and England present Europe in entirely different ways
April 3, 2019 9.56am BS



"In the German books there was a very different approach: Europe is seen more expansively and positively with an integrated approach to politics and identity. The German textbooks also had references to Europe being “our historical, cultural and intellectual home”, a “community of values”, and, a place where “enemies became friends”.

Far more rational than our narrow ERG views.

[pillion] 04/4/2019 08:33

Ex divi today by 2.14 pence

[minerve 2] 04/4/2019 08:31

"on the one side you have enterprising and go-ahead people looking forward to trading with the whole world"

Does anyone see that in a Farage or Robinson crowd?

ROFLMAO!

[maxk] 04/4/2019 08:28

Every region of England and Wales happy to leave the EU without a deal - except London





By Christopher Hope, Chief Political Correspondent
3 April 2019 • 6:33pm


Every English and Welsh region outside the M25 is happy to leave the European Union without a deal if no agreement can be reached by the end of next week.

The study by YouGov asked voters “if Britain has not agreed a deal by April 12th, what do you think should happen?”.

The research found that only people living in London did not want to leave without a deal.

In London 48 per cent of voters agreed that “Britain should withdraw our application to leave and remain in the EU” against 26pc who backed leaving without a deal.

The picture was reversed outside London however. In the rest of the South of England 44pc were in favour of no-deal against 34pc who wanted to revoke the decision to leave.



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[grahamite2] 04/4/2019 08:26

So you are an MP, on the one side you have enterprising and go-ahead people looking forward to trading with the whole world, not just a small and sclerotic part of it, and on the other you have a pack of old ladies scared of their own shadows.

Who are you going to listen to?

[minerve 2] 04/4/2019 08:24

So you are an MP, on the one side you have a pensioned old-fart holding The Express telling you about how resourceful we can be with rationing, and on the other you have families concerned about putting food on the table and business owners telling you they are really concerned and most likely need to close the business or lay off staff.

Who are you going to listen to?

[patientcapital] 04/4/2019 08:16

"Every region of England and Wales apart from London is happy to leave the European Union without a deal, a poll has revealed.In the Midlands and Wales, 46 per cent favour no deal, while 31 per cent want to Remain, according to the research by YouGov.In the South, 44 per cent back No Deal and 34 per cent are for remaining in the EU.In the North of England, 41 per cent back No Deal and 34 want to remain.However in London, only 26 per cent back No Deal and 48 per cent want to remain, the research found." - Evening Standard

[grahamite2] 04/4/2019 08:13

Totally agree Cheshire pete, the point I was making is that nobody votes Conservative in Doncaster anyway. And they never have.

[grahamite2] 04/4/2019 08:10

So you are an MP, on the one side you have enterprising and go-ahead people looking forward to trading with the whole world, not just a small and sclerotic part of it, and on the other you have a pack of old ladies scared of their own shadows.

Who are you going to listen to?

[cheshire pete] 04/4/2019 08:10

grahamite2:'Obviously Doncaster tells us very little about how the Conservatives will fare!'
As a lifelong Tory, and while I can't be 100% certain, I suspect my thoughts now are typical of Tories. We are in despair at our party split over Europe. We have had a succession of Europhile leaders with the latest deceiving the country into a remain Brexit. Going forward given the choice between Farage and his Brexit Party and more of the same from the hopeless Tories it is an absolute no brainer. If people's hope and aspiration are taken away from them they have nothing to lose by trying an alternative. Many labour voters will feel the same I suspect.

[polar fox] 04/4/2019 08:07

For the record, the share price has so far traded down to a low of 62.73 this morning, which is 2.15 down from last night's close. It almost exactly reflects the XD adjustment.

Where it goes from here, probably depends on Brexit developments, as much as anything.

[minerve 2] 04/4/2019 08:06

So you are an MP, on the one side you have a pensioned old-fart holding The Express telling you about how resourceful we can be with rationing, and on the other you have families concerned about putting food on the table and business owners telling you they are really concerned and most likely need to close the business or lay off staff.

Who are you going to listen to?

[poikka] 04/4/2019 08:00

The real problem with not being in a Customs Union is that the EU would try to fugg us about as much as possible with border delays. Note the 20 minute delays at the Norway/Sweden border. The Turkey border is a special case.

There's no need for that these days, and leaving with no deal could help the EU to come to its senses.

Me, I'm all for free trade. Our economy would have to come to terms with that and adjust.

[bbalanjones] 04/4/2019 07:59

Trade Goods!!! The Tory Party should concentrate on Grave Goods now.

[poikka] 04/4/2019 07:56

And this

"Given that the customs union mostly affects physical trade goods, it might be thought that goods exports to the EU would be the best-performing category of the four. In fact, it is comfortably the worst, not just in recent years but over the past two decades, during which time exports have grown by just 0.2% on average. That’s actually worse than growth in goods exports to the rest of the world (up 3.3% a year)."

[grahamite2] 04/4/2019 07:55

xxxxxy 4 Apr '19 - 07:53 - 253958 of 253971

Brexit Party leads Doncaster General Election poll –

1 Brexit Party 28%
2 Labour 27%
3 UKIP 18%

From Doncaster Free Press

by the way Conservative 5th behind “none of the them” which is 4th

Obviously Doncaster tells us very little about how the Conservatives will fare! The figures are very interesting all the same, as they tell us what will happen if UKIP and the Brexit Party can't come to an accord.

[poikka] 04/4/2019 07:54

Maxk - 63. Interesting article. Here's a few points of especial interest.

"The UK’s record in services has been much better. Exports to non-EU countries have grown by 5.6% a year for the past two decades, while services exports to the EU have increased by 5.2% a year.

Since the late 1990s, a deficit in goods with the EU of £6bn a year has ballooned into a deficit of £95bn a year. What’s more, the two goods sectors where the UK runs its biggest trade deficit with the EU are motor vehicles and food and drink, the ones that get the most protection from tariffs. Per head of population, the UK’s deficit in goods with the EU is bigger than the US’s bilateral deficit with China, which Donald Trump is so fired up about.

In part, that’s due to the EU’s miserable growth performance, but there’s more to it than that. Despite all the form-filling they have to do, Chinese, American, Indian and Brazilian goods exports to the EU have increased faster than Britain’s.

Certain conclusions can be drawn from this. The customs union works well for German carmakers and French farmers, who have a captive market for their products, but has not delivered anything like the same benefits for the UK."

[bbalanjones] 04/4/2019 07:52

JC is a powderpuff type of Marxist, basically a serial protestor and pacifist. He has his day in the sun currently, only by contrast to immediate past failed leaders. He will be replaced long before his level of incompetence becomes a problem. Tory Demagogues need Bogeymen. lol.

[wbecki] 04/4/2019 07:45

@Maxk,

Guardian article understates the dangers of a Customs Union.
See Turkey.

[cheshire pete] 04/4/2019 07:24

Corbyn should enjoy his moment in power and control because it will be short lived. Labour are finished. The Tories are finished. The Brexit Party are now the way forward as the only ones who care about the country and its people. Merkel and Macron must be full of glee at our impotence.

[xxxxxy] 04/4/2019 07:22

The People voted for Brexit. Not Remain dressed up as Brexit.


May Elections. Vote BREXIT

[keyno] 04/4/2019 07:21

PG Wodehouse couldn't have written a better plot than the one that is currently being played out in and around Westminster. I can't wait to see "Brexit, the Movie". Script by Armando Iannucci. Additional material by Ben Elton.

[xxxxxy] 04/4/2019 07:18

Vote Conservative and get a Marxist sympathiser

[xxxxxy] 04/4/2019 07:15

Coming May Elections. Do not vote Con and Labour QUISLINGS party.

Vote BREXIT

Vote BREXIT Party

LEAVE and WTO