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[k38] 05/3/2019 09:24

You can't change Brussels by stay in.. you only change bureaucracy by leaving and others follow you !!

[bbalanjones] 05/3/2019 09:22

Citizen of a shrinking, increasingly interdependent entity we all call our Home Planet.

[k38] 05/3/2019 09:21

As Minerve would have said... remainers chimps. lol

[k38] 05/3/2019 09:20

In that case there's no point of voting.

[bbalanjones] 05/3/2019 09:17

LOL. Sadly the TRUTH is distorted by 43 years of dripped poison.

FREEDOM has always be illusory; DEMOCRACY (whatever that means) lasts only until the next vote.

All Hail the League of Empire Loyalists. ;-))

[xxxxxy] 05/3/2019 09:04

These guys are on Truth, Freedom and Democracy.

[bbalanjones] 05/3/2019 08:46

What are these guys on? Frenzied postings bordering on gibberish. This Asylum will NOT be taken - over by the inmates!!:-))

[k38] 05/3/2019 08:22

bobThis is not about me but for you too and the 70 million UK citizens. Paying millions without a say and no escape. .... The WA is an international treaty with no exit clause – once it is signed, the UK cannot escape its provisions unless it accepts ... If the UK ratifies the Withdrawal Agreement, we cannot prevent the backstop coming into force, nor escape from it once it is in force, except with the agreement of the EU – and if there is a breakdown in negotiations then it will "endure indefinitely" with no legal route of escape.............

[xxxxxy] 05/3/2019 08:21

Deal or no deal, here’s why Brexit cannot be stopped
The UK political commentariat are a lazy bunch. Brexit is one of their biggest topics in decades – a bonanza that any amateur can pitch in on – yet remarkably few have got to grips with the key texts. If they had, they would realise Brexit is at that stage of the chess game where the result is already a foregone conclusion. Brexit is going to happen.

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In order to push through the WA&PD, the Government has a problem. The issue that MPs have taken up most vocally – the lack of an exit from the backstop – is the part the Government most requires to deliver BRINO. So how do they get their deal through Parliament? This is set out, following the Government’s acceptance of the Cooper Amendment F:
1. Request a change in the WA from the EU27 to give what appears to be (but isn’t) a legally-binding exit from the backstop.
2. By 12th March hold a new vote to approve the WA&PD and overturn the previous defeat by a majority of 230.
In order to pressurise MPs into voting for the WA&PD the Government will seek to deploy the threat inherent in the second two parts of the Cooper Amendment F: if the WA is voted down, the Government (if it decided to acquiesce in Remain and follow the motion) would then table a motion to endorse leaving without a deal which, if defeated, would require a further motion on 14th March to instruct the Prime Minister to seek an extension. 
Is threatening an Article 50 extension a credible threat?
 
It is of course gratifying that even Remainers acknowledge that remaining in the EU is a threat to be wielded. But it’s not a credible threat. If MPs are minded to vote against the Withdrawal Agreement they are not voting to stay in the EU. So, what would happen?
If the Commons defeats the Withdrawal Agreement again before 12th March, they may be presented with a vote on ‘no deal’. If for the sake of argument the Commons votes against ‘no deal’ and then votes on 14th March to request the Prime Minister to request an extension of Article 50, they are too late – there would be only 17 days left. In that time they would need: 


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[bargainbob] 05/3/2019 07:36

K38 what will you do once the MPs back Brino ?

[diplomat65] 05/3/2019 07:36

Sorry to go off-topic but there is a fresh petition to ban shorting of London AIM stocks (started a few hours ago). It only takes a few seconds to sign and needs a minimum of 10,000 signatures to get noticed, so please pass it on to any other interested parties.hTTps://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/242399Thanks

[k38] 05/3/2019 00:27

Leaving on 29th March 2019 without a deal is the default course of action which is now hard-coded into the law. Any alternative route – whether a different deal with the EU, an extension of the Article 50 period, a referendum, or (most radically) a withdrawal of the Article 50 notice – would require the active cooperation of the Government in all cases, and in almost all eventualities the passage of a Bill through both Houses to Royal Assent between now and 29th March 2019.Therefore Brexit-supporting MPs who do not think that this deal is in the national interest should not be deterred from voting against it by the Grieve amendment, or by implausible claims by the Prime Minister that rejection of her deal might lead to "no Brexit."

[k38] 05/3/2019 00:22

Under Article 132, a decision to extend the transition period is by the Joint Committee. This means that the EU and the UK must both agree to the extension within that Committee. Under Art.132(3) that decision must deal with a number of matters including establishing the amount of the UK's contribution to the EU budget.That is rather like having an "option" to buy a house which does not specify the price, allowing the seller to charge what it likes if the option is exercised. If the UK were for whatever reason desperate to extend the transition period and so defer (but not avoid) the backstop, the EU would have us completely over a barrel on the financial payments.The UK now has a "choice" to avoid the backstop, by a very simple means. That is to reject Theresa May's deal.

[k38] 05/3/2019 00:10

Written byMartin Howe QCMartin Howe is a leading barrister in the fields of intellectual property and EU law. He was called to the bar in 1978 and became a QC in 1996. He is Chairman of Lawyers for Britain..... The WA is an international treaty with no exit clause – once it is signed, the UK cannot escape its provisions unless it accepts a permanent arrangement beneficial to the EU or breaks international law, with potentially huge political and financial costsThe Attorney General's advice to the Cabinet explained the position with stark clarity. If the UK ratifies the Withdrawal Agreement, we cannot prevent the backstop coming into force, nor escape from it once it is in force, except with the agreement of the EU – and if there is a breakdown in negotiations then it will "endure indefinitely" with no legal route of escape.............

[stonedyou] 04/3/2019 22:26

MANFRED Weber - Let me tell you this...... there`s probably 35,000,00 or more

who wouldn`t get.....out of bed to vote for anything to....do with the "HATED EU"





"I can not allow the British tragedy to infect the rest of the EU and ultimately feed the populists"





I won’t let British tragedy INFECT EU!’ Weber rules out British participation in

election

MANFRED Weber has launched a scathing attack against Britain around Brexit,

warning the UK taking part in the upcoming European Parliament election would

be “unthinkable”.


The chair of the European Parliament’s EPP Group poured cold water over possible

British participation in May’s crunch election – in the event Brexit was delayed –

during a spirited defence of the European Union’s future. In an interview with

German news magazine Spiegel, Mr Weber warned the “British tragedy” could

ultimately end up feeding the populists. He said: "Participation of British

citizens in the European elections is unthinkable for me

[diku] 04/3/2019 22:07

And Mo hilarious as ever...

[bargainbob] 04/3/2019 22:03

And just as wet lol

[alphorn] 04/3/2019 21:40

Sometimes grahamite you can be narrower than a canal boat.

[maxk] 04/3/2019 21:13

I reckon it's Min's boyfriend..