Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[mikemichael2] 26/2/2019 11:50

How about setting up your own thread Minerve??

[smartypants] 26/2/2019 11:44

Yeah well at least you will be able to get a doctors appointment cos all them Johnny Foreigners will have been sent packing!!
Ohhh..wait a min, aren't a lot of them doctors and nurses??

Brexit in any form will 'inflict significant harm on NHS'

Any form of Brexit will inflict "significant harm" on the NHS but leaving without a deal is the worst possible option, damning new research has found.
The availability of medicines and vaccines, the healthcare workforce, NHS financing and access to medical research would all be negatively impacted by a no-deal Brexit, the study showed.
Authors of the review published in medical journal The Lancet warned "little evidence exists that the UK is prepared for any of the eventualities” of Britian's departure from the bloc.
The report added: "For instance, the recently published NHS 10-year plan ran to 136 pages, with only two mentions of Brexit, neither of which offered any detail about what it might mean or how any threats would be addressed."

Four Brexit scenarios were analysed by the authors, including a no-deal outcome in which Britain leaves the EU on March 29, which was considered to have the most major drawbacks but also the only positive outcome when compared with other options.
These were the Withdrawal Agreement, including a transition agreement until the end of 2020, the Northern Ireland backstop and the Political Declaration on the post-Brexit relationship between the UK and EU.

The authors suggested the one positive of a no-deal Brexit was that NHS England would no longer be in the "perceived shadow" of EU competition and procurement law, which the academics said were believed to be behind some health service inefficiencies.
Co-author Professor Martin McKee from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said: "Some people will dismiss our analysis as 'Project Fear'.
"But with just over a month to go to Brexit, we need to move beyond slogans.

"We have set out the problems in detail, based on the best available evidence. If others disagree, then they owe it to the British people to say why.
"It just isn't good enough to keep saying that 'something will work out' without any details of exactly how."

Remaining in the EU was not included in the analysis but a paper published in the journal by the same authors in 2017 suggested it would be better for health than any form of Brexit.
The proposed £30,000 salary threshold in the Immigration White Paper would "seriously limit" immigration of health workers to the UK and there are no provisions for health care workers under either the backstop or Political Declaration Brexit agreements, according to the analysis.

The Withdrawal Agreement provides reciprocal health arrangements via the European Health Insurance Card and mutual recognition of professional qualifications up to 2020 but under no-deal this would cease in 2019.

The "continuity of legal provisions" under the Withdrawal Agreement would also secure supply chains for medicines, vaccines and medical equipment until 2020 but a no-deal Brexit would have "an immediate and drastic effect"on NHS provisions, according to the report.

The loss of access to funding for NHS infrastructure projects from the European Investment Bank would negatively impact the health service in all scenarios, it added.
The authors also argued all scenarios would make the UK less attractive to the pharmaceutical industry as it would no longer be a member of the European Medicines Agency.
This would mean treatments could be launched up to 24 months later than they otherwise might, the study suggested.
Any form of Brexit would also harm the UK's global standing in health and "there is concern that the UK might use Brexit" to roll back European measures on air pollution, workplace health and safety and tobacco, the report added.
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Health minister Stephen Hammond said the Department of Health and Social Care had analysed the supply chains of 12,300 medicines.
"While we never give guarantees, we are confident that, if everyone - including suppliers, freight companies, international partners and the health and care system - does what they need to do, the supply of medicines and medical products should be uninterrupted in the event of exiting the EU without a deal," he said.

I believe him..

[polar fox] 26/2/2019 11:37

The submarine is timed to address the HoC around 12.30. Submarines are designed to make sharp U-turns!

[cheshire pete] 26/2/2019 11:34

What's it to you Minerve whether I'm a country bumpkin or a former high flier? My views are my views. You seem to have an obsession with what people have achieved or what their status was or is. Lack of self worth or esteem perhaps?

[ekuuleus] 26/2/2019 11:28

I think it's more like 500m new shares per year.

[smartypants] 26/2/2019 11:23

Issuing 104 mil new shares for there "bonus" scheme's ….. that they can then buy back with "your" not paid out in dividend, money...
I am sure they deserve it, the stock has performed brilliantly over the last year..2 years..3...5..?
75p by Christmas.

[minerve] 26/2/2019 11:16

This thread is becoming embarrassing. I can actually feel my brain cells die when I come to this thread.

cheshire, I think it is important you tell us what you've achieved in life. If you have done NOTHING and achieved very little it hardly shows someone who is astute and clever.

Come on spill the beans you coward.

[xxxxxy] 26/2/2019 11:12

Smell the coffee
Smell the danger.
Smell the putrefying EUSSR

LEAVE and WTO

[cheshire pete] 26/2/2019 10:58

I don't think so maxk, think he's above that sort of thing. If the Brexit process is prolonged or stopped altogether then I think Farage and his Brexit Party are the only hope for the country. We cannot lose this fight against the EU as we will be under the EU jackboot forever until we are left in the same state as the 'SunMed' countries are now. EU is all about German and French domination.

[xxxxxy] 26/2/2019 10:55

Register with Brexit Party. Could be Revolution without the bullets.

Love and Peace.

Pass it on

[terminated] 26/2/2019 10:51

They said this morning a second referendum would have two questions on it Accept Mrs Mays scandelous offer of brexit or no deal. So asking the people to vote in a deal parliament wouldn't touch with a ten foot barge poll (and rightky so) or stay in the EU.A ficking scandalous betrayal of democracy by both sides and a complete conspiracy to keep us in.

[xxxxxy] 26/2/2019 10:38

Questions for Remain
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JANUARY 27, 2019
I am bored to tears with much of the conventional media, which simply recycle endless old Project Fear stories as if they were true, parades so called experts who always back Remain, and fail to ask any of these people the questions pro Leave would ask. The media interrupts and cross examines Leave supporters aggressively but rarely asks a difficult question of a Remain “expert” or supporter. So here’s the sort of questions they should be asked, in the interests of balance.

Why do you want to give £39bn away to rich countries on the continent in return for 21 more months of talks with the EU?
Why do you think the EU will give us a good deal on a future relationship in 21 months of talks after March, when they have failed to offer anything in the 2 years 9 months before March?
Why will it be easier to get a good deal once we have given away the money than it is before we do so?
Why did Remain tell us that leaving the EU meant leaving the single market and customs union if you now say we could negotiate our way back in?
If you want to stay in either the single market or customs union what do you expect the EU to demand on freedom of movement, budget contributions and adherence to EU laws?
Why should there be any delays at UK ports where we import food and drugs, when the UK will be controlling the borders there and when Customs and Excise have already said they can ensure a smooth incoming border?
Why didn’t the UK economy collapse into recession and massive job losses as Remain and the government predicted for the first year after a Leave vote?
How would you afford the tax cuts and spending increases which Brexiteers plan from the big savings on the EU budget? Do you accept a Brexit bonus budget will boost the economy?
Would you like to see lower tariffs or no tariffs on tropical produce from emerging market poorer countries, as the UK can do that once out? Wouldn’t removing all tariffs on imported comp0nents for manufacture be a great idea as well?
Wouldn’t another 21 to 45 months of talks prolong the very business uncertainty you dislike and worry about?
What would you have said if Leave had refused to accept the 1975 referendum result and demanded a second referendum on the basis that Remain then lied by saying there would be no loss of sovereignty by joining the EEC/EU?
Why do you have such a low view of our country that you think we cannot govern ourselves?
Is there anything the EU has done that you think is wrong or damaging? If so why didnt you oppose or try to change it?

[xxxxxy] 26/2/2019 10:33

Extending Article 50: what will be the price?


Under international law, the UK would have some legal obligations but they would be very much lower. (For background on this, see Charlie Elphicke MP and Martin Howe QC on the EU’s financial claims.)

So taking advantage of the UK’s moment of weakness when it supplicates for an Article 50 extension, and taking the chance to lock in the EU’s legal entitlement to this enhanced sum come what may, would be quite the logical thing for Germany to insist on.
This illustrates a wider point about any application to extend Article 50. By asking for a favour when up against the clock, the UK would once again put itself in a very weak negotiating position, where it would be subject to being blackmailed for further concessions. It would also let the EU off the hook and remove the negotiation pressure on the EU to revise the terms of the Withdrawal Agreement. Asking for an Article 50 extension would be a terrible, terrible idea.

[maxk] 26/2/2019 10:24

I'm wondering if Farage has been bought off?

His relative silence is deafening.

[cheshire pete] 26/2/2019 10:20

Farage no fool.....like Pele who waited and waited and waited before casually flicking the ball sideways for the late Carlos Alberto to come thundering up for Brazil's 4th goal v Italy in the 1970 World Cup Final. It is all about timing.

[k38] 26/2/2019 10:10

I know how the mafia in Brussels works.
UK is in big trouble with this useless lot in parliament.
What we need now is Nigel Farage to show leadership and the Brexit party to be more active.

[cheshire pete] 26/2/2019 10:06

It may seem a bit of a David v Goliath struggle k38 but we must remain strong against the tyrannical EU, Tusk and his hell etc. Farage has for the last 20 years and he's not going to give up now without a fight. Nor am I, 100% Brexit. Democracy must and will prevail....eventually.

[poikka] 26/2/2019 10:05

K38 - we haven't seen "the end" yet. Don't lose faith.
Wish we could see the end of Vermin.

[k38] 26/2/2019 09:58

Brussels bureaucracy always win in the end.

[minerve] 26/2/2019 09:25

Shy Tott

"Regards the rns, the Lloyd giveth and the Lloyd taketh away."

LOL

Good one.

[prewar] 26/2/2019 09:18

"I'm not sure whether an GE can be forced (anyone know?), but that seems the only way out. Get the Brexit party in to finish what they, or their leader, started."

Who is this big shot leader of politics? Not some lady who helps run a B&B in Norfolk is it?

[m4rtinu] 26/2/2019 09:09

Shy Tott - brilliant quote (#686)! Can you register that before someone else uses it? I was thinking along the lines of: Lloyds gets its retaliation in first.

[polar fox] 26/2/2019 09:05

SP back above 61p. Last week's high was exactly 62p and it needs to get above that and 62.11 to open the door to a move higher.