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[pawsche] 11/1/2019 10:06

@wilmo - 11 Jan '19 - 08:45 - 242138

I cannot think of any other situation that doesn’t give the population the opportunity for change. That’s why we have a general election at least once every 5 years.

Indeed... However, I believe that it's normal to allow the government voted in at a General Election to take office before calling for another GE.

[patientcapital] 11/1/2019 10:04

Yes, to The Tower with the pair of you!

[bbalanjones] 11/1/2019 10:01

m4u : SHUSH! Such Blasphemy is not welcome to most contributors. 67.2% - Must have been a counting error!!! (Either that or the Unions stuffed the Ballot Boxes.)

[m4rtinu] 11/1/2019 09:52

Under the Labour Prime Minister, Harold Wilson, there was a UK referendum on continued membership of the EEC in 1975. The electorate voted 'Yes' by 67.2% to 32.8% to stay in Europe.

So it's 1-1 at the moment :)

[bbalanjones] 11/1/2019 09:48

excell111 Jan '19 - 09:02 - 242139 of 242151

In plain and simple terms the "One-off" Referendum was held 40 Years ago!

[diku] 11/1/2019 09:40

The way UK Politics/Democracy is being played out and laid bare to see is in it self supporting EU agendas...

[ladeside] 11/1/2019 09:36

It's probably pointless trying to point out FACTS to some of you, however the Scottish Referendum was contested by the Unionists using the continuing EU membership as the reason for staying in, however that's now been turned on it's head and of course Scotland overwhelmingly voted to remain in the EU, as such the people were lied to and cheated which makes the previous result nil and void.

[cheshire pete] 11/1/2019 09:32

Time for a new BREXIT party. Stand at the next election to deliver REAL Brexit, not a watered down version that's worse than remain. Such a party with a charismatic leader would get support from Brexiteer Tories and Labour voters...17.4 million pool and rising. Clearly neither the Tories or Labour are capable of delivering hard, real, no deal Brexit, time to get rid of them both. They have failed the people. Where's my yellow jacket gone....going to start wearing it to the shops.

[diku] 11/1/2019 09:31

Did anybody watch BBC Question Time yesterday with new host Fiona Bruce in charge?...I thought she had too much of a false smile...

[xxxxxy] 11/1/2019 09:16

Trading on WTO rules will be a liberation for the UK – and the Labour leadership needs to embrace it

Brendan Chilton is co-author with Lord Lilley of 30 Truths about leaving on WTO terms: Why WTO offers a safer haven than the Backstop, which is published today by Global Britain and Labour Leave. The tone of the language we so often hear and the words we frequently read associated with trading on World Trade Organisation terms is negative and promotes images of chaos and disorder. All of this is based on deliberate fear.

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Source :

[jpjohn1] 11/1/2019 09:14

Yes excell1, once you have a referendum that's it ! No more we will have one in a couple of years because we did not get the result what you wanted. It's a bit like Scotland, they voted to stay. The people who say they want another, when will it stop. If that was the case and there was another referendum, and they voted to leave would we have one after say 5 years to see if they want to come back into the UK. It works both ways

[cheshire pete] 11/1/2019 09:13

Vauch: good to have you on board....another Brexiteer.

[xxxxxy] 11/1/2019 09:12

Trading under WTO rules

By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JANUARY 10, 2019

There is a lot of confusion and deliberate misinformation about trading under the WTO. Here are some facts that might help.

1. All our current trade is under the WTO, as the EU is a member. The UK will become a full member with vote and voice as soon as we leave the EU, as we never surrendered our membership when we joined the EU.
2. There is no WTO schedule of tariffs that automatically comes in. Each member of the WTO files its own tariff schedule and trades with anyone under that who wish to trade. The WTO requires a member to trade with any other member on the same terms, unless there is an approved Free Trade Agreement that exempts the countries from the common tariff of the Schedules. A country is always free unilaterally to cut or remove tariffs.
3. If a country’s trading terms are disputed by another member there is a dispute resolution procedure. A dispute does not stop trading under the published terms whilst the dispute is being resolved.
4. The EU does not have Free Trade Agreements with the USA, China, Brazil etc so we trade successfully with them at the moment under WTO rules and under the tariff schedule set by the EU. Once out we can sign Free Trade deals with these countries removing these tariffs, or could cut some of the tariffs unilaterally any time we wanted to make imports cheaper.
5. The so called side deals the EU has with these countries are mainly unimportant or unrelated to trade. Some are multilateral agreements that the UK has signed anyway.
6.The one agreement we currently have through the EU that may be important, the General Procurement Agreement, gives us access to public procurement opportunities in signatory states, and gives them the same access to the UK. The WTO has now agreed the UK will be a member of that Agreement in our own right on departure from the EU.
7. The EU has free trade agreements with a number of mainly smaller countries. The top five, Switzerland, Canada, Korea, Norway and Turkey account for three quarters of the exports involved. Switzerland, for example, has agreed to continue all current preferences with the UK as well as with the rest of the EU on our exit. No country with an FTA with the EU has indicated any wish to terminate the agreement with the UK once we leave. Transferring the current deal to both the remaining EU and to the UK is a relatively straightforward process.
8. The WTO does not require us to impose new checks at borders or delay imports into the UK. They recommend risk based checks. As the risks of EU product will not go up the day we leave the EU there is no requirement to impose new difficult checks.
9. If the UK and the EU agree to negotiate a free trade agreement once the UK has left the EU on March 29 this year, we could agree to impose no tariffs on each other and would get WTO consent to not impose them pending the negotiation of a full free trade agreement.

Peter Lilley has published a good pamphlet with Global Britain and Labour Leave setting out more detail called “30 Truths about leaving on WTO terms”

[diku] 11/1/2019 09:11

It is all about sweeteners now...

[xxxxxy] 11/1/2019 09:10

Jaguar Land Rover hit in China and on the European continent by falling sales

By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JANUARY 10, 2019

The sales figures for 2018 were down in 2018 on 2017 by 4.6%. Within this the pattern was

North America plus 7.2%
UK minus 1.5%
Europe minus 7.8%
China minus 21.6%

The Uk performance was especially good given the fall in the overall market thanks to higher Vehicle Excise Duties, the attack on diesels and the general squeeze on car loan credit. As JLR said “The UK’s performance in particular has been encouraging”

It is a great pity JLR has to reduce its workforce thanks to a nasty decline in China and a marked slowdown on the continent.

[maxk] 11/1/2019 09:08

Jaguar Land Rover: How EU rules left Slovakia free to entice car maker from UK with £110m state aid sweetener






read the comments.

[pooroldboy55] 11/1/2019 09:07

Wilmo this is different we were told one off vote if it had gone the other way I'm sure you would not be saying that as your pro EU.

[excell1] 11/1/2019 09:02

Eh!
Does one really have to explain the difference between a one off referendum and a five year government election.

[wilmo] 11/1/2019 08:45

Democracy is an ongoing process so when should we schedule the next vote on EU membership?
Unfortunately this has been sold as a one time decision which because of economic development is an impossible situation.
I cannot think of any other situation that doesn’t give the population the opportunity for change. That’s why we have a general election at least once every 5 years.
Imagine if the US were never given another chance to change its mind on who they choose to be president!!

[mikemichael2] 11/1/2019 08:42

Absolutely bonkers.

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[jpjohn1] 11/1/2019 08:30

Most on here agree with you Vauch. We either have Democracy or not, we should get what was said in the referendum. Not the fudge May is trying to push through. The problem was she was always a remainer and should never been given the job has PM

[vauch] 11/1/2019 08:16

And what pees me of even more is we are suppose to be in a democracy but many politicians want to ignore the fact we voted out and want another vote.

If this eventually happens it will mean we have more than one vote at every election.

[vauch] 11/1/2019 08:14

I do hope a no deal is the outcome. sort free trade with US and other country's
up import taxes start up real farming in UK for The UK get back to being a producer of products for our markets.


Once we are gone then others in the EU will start to follow as it is a club that just costs to much in every way.

[bargainbob] 11/1/2019 07:46

So saying the Hated EU a hundred times a day could be serious now if reported ? is it 1984 ?

[k38] 11/1/2019 02:23

"People of Europe are tired of EU (Brussels) way of handling issues "Free speech in Europe under attack. (Criticizing migration especially illegal will become a "hate crime" in global pact )European parliament member Marcel de Graaff "criticisem of migration will become criminal offence "