Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[alphorn] 12/12/2018 11:48

Market is marking time until the next Act.

[k38] 12/12/2018 11:47

Merkel told the press she only will work with JC on Bretix (stay) deal because as a leader he is worse than TM.

[alphorn] 12/12/2018 11:46

Poika - so what was David Davis doing this past 2 1/2 years - sleeping.

It was his brief fgs. What a loser.

The whole thing is becoming a total farce.

[stonedyou] 12/12/2018 11:39

careful....."To me that is like an act of war in all but name. It is

occupation, without using soldiers."






"I do not like Dennis Skinner, but he summed it up. He may be old but his brain is

still working. He has said what we ALL would like to say.

That backstop was inserted for one reason only. To scare the pants off other

countries, who may decide to follow our lead through the door. Basically the EU

are saying to the other countries in the block, IF we can do this to the 5th

largest economy in the world. Just think of what we can do to you (Italy) IF you

challenge our authority. To me that is like an act of war in all but name. It is

occupation, without using soldiers.

Why would Mrs May (and her advisers) even contemplate allowing this to be inserted

into the withdrawal agreement, beggars belief. The only conclusion I can think of,

is it is collusion on a grand scale. To help stop the EU imploding once we have

left, or rather not left. Because we would be held and ruled, still by Brussels.

What was she thinking of ?."

[k38] 12/12/2018 11:37

Careful forgetting with this deal not only you stay but you have no say, just obey the rules and pay.Whoever wins, We need a clear Bretix and a deal without chains.

[careful] 12/12/2018 11:31

stoned
do you appreciate the fact that many uk companies operate on WTO rules every day with countries outside of the EU.
This is a well trodden path.

But every expert who knows about these things thinks that the deal we have now as members with the EU. is far better than WTO.
Every effort is being made in recent negotiations to duplicate these existing terms with our biggest trading partner, the EU.

Only this week the WTO stated that the trend for rising tariffs was a serious threat to the World economy.
Business that operate daily using WTO and do business with the EU. are worried by all this talk about WTO with the EU. by amateurs that know nothing about the subject.

[diku] 12/12/2018 11:30

Hence the 2 choice question...majority wins...

[k38] 12/12/2018 11:30

I agree with you but this has turned nasty.

[k38] 12/12/2018 11:27

I agree with diku, but even whoever wins the vote today needs to ask the peopleDo you want a clean cut Brexit?...orDo you want a negotiated Brexit with EU?.......Once that article 50 was triggered the Government could have gone back to the people (voters) with a 2 choice question vote...and those who didn't vote in 2016 would also have taken a part...this would have saved all this laughing stock Political posturing...Do you want a clean cut Brexit?...orDo you want a negotiated Brexit with EU?...

[grahamite2] 12/12/2018 11:21

The right not to vote is every bit as important as the right to vote.

[diku] 12/12/2018 11:17

Once that article 50 was triggered the Government could have gone back to the people (voters) with a 2 choice question vote...and those who didn't vote in 2016 would also have taken a part...this would have saved all this laughing stock Political posturing...

Do you want a clean cut Brexit?...

or

Do you want a negotiated Brexit with EU?...

[stonedyou] 12/12/2018 11:13

Good post this....

The WTO


The World Trade Organization (WTO) is the only global international organization

dealing with the rules of trade between nations. At its heart are the WTO

agreements, negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world’s trading nations and

ratified in their parliaments. The goal is to ensure that trade flows as smoothly,

predictably and freely as possible.

The primary purpose of the WTO is to open trade for the benefit of all. They do

not try and take over your country, they do not charge billions just to trade,

they do not tell you who to let into your country, they do not make our laws, they

do not have their hands in our till, they do not have a pseudo army to quell

uprisings of their members, they do not tell anyone what to do with their

country's borders !!!!

[poikka] 12/12/2018 11:11

1922 Chairman has to go, too.

"Brexiteers are furious about the decision to hold the 'no confidence' vote today. They had been led to believe it was Monday so they could prepare. One tells me: "It is an absolute outrage. Whether we end up with a change of leader we will end up with a change in 22 chairman."

Brady, you're toast.

[poikka] 12/12/2018 11:10

"David Davis says a new legal text he is launching today is the answer to getting the UK out of the EU.

Talking at the launch of "A Better Deal" in central London, he says it is the "clearest and cleanest way" of leaving and is "part of an overall strategy in dealing with where we are today".

He says: "We need to reset the negotiating strategy on a basis that is mutually acceptable to both sides
"And we need to do it in a way that can be delivered quickly. We haven't got time to waste."

Mr Davis says it isn't another speech or policy paper, but a legal text based on previous European treaties, so the EU "are not able to turn round and say it is undermining the market or cherry picking".

[retsius] 12/12/2018 11:06

careful

Spot on with your hunch about tonight`s vote and other observations.
R.

[mr.elbee] 12/12/2018 10:59

it was just the same 40 years ago when anyone expressed suppport for Thatcher.

an evil nasty little country now..that's the UK

[bargainbob] 12/12/2018 10:47

May forecast to walk no confidence vote .

[stonedyou] 12/12/2018 10:45

Lovely Katey Hoey as it spot on.....The money grasping elites




"I think they have helped to do what the EU would have wished and supported, which

is more in line with the views of the elite that we never should have left."






Brexit WARNING: Brexiteer MP claims civil servants working under EU AGENDA in Brexit talks


BRITAIN'S civil service is “very clever” and has worked to keep Britain closely

aligned to the European Union after Brexit, Labour MP Kate Hoey has warned.




The Labour Brexiteer launched a savage attack on the civil service before hitting

out at Prime Minister Theresa May, who she said has “never really understood” why

17.4 million Britons voted to leave the European Union during the 2016 Brexit

referendum. Addressing the Commons during an emergency Brexit debate on Tuesday,

Ms Hoey said: “We hear so much about how clever our civil servants are and how

wonderful their advice must be.



“Well, frankly, I think they are very very clever. I think they have helped to do

what the EU would have wished and supported, which is more in line with the views

of the elite that we never should have left.

“They have worked so hard to keep us closely aligned to the EU as possible and

then sell it as the best deal we can get.

“As a Remainer herself, the Prime Minister has never really understood, I believe,

why people voted to Leave. I’m afraid that the EU has seemed to run rings around

the Prime Minister.”

[maxk] 12/12/2018 10:42

Nothing would surprise me when it comes to the Hoc.

But if May is reaffirmed as leader, that's the end of the tory party.

[careful] 12/12/2018 10:29

If May does survive tonight, and my hunch is that she will,
then all of a sudden things look better.
it will quieten those disruptive Brexit fanatics, especially if she wins comfortably.

The tories have always had an instinct for survival and most know that May's approval rating is ahead of everyone else, despite the fact that she has been given the poisoned chalice, the hospital pass, call it what you will.

Tonight could be the turning point, the time when we return to sanity.
With labour it is a case of 'go ahead punk, make my day'.
..if they call a no confidence vote, the government would probably win.
DUP have no fondness for IRA loving Corbyn.