Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[tradejunkie2] 11/12/2018 11:18

What's new kitty cats?

[grahamite2] 11/12/2018 11:12

The remoaners don't even know what they're afraid of. They just know they're afraid, terribly, terribly afraid.

[maxk] 11/12/2018 11:06

You sure are Min!

[minerve] 11/12/2018 10:57

maxk

Why should I want to change it? I don't just believe I am right, I know I am right!

[maxk] 11/12/2018 10:56

I've saved that one for posterity Min, just in case you sober up and want to change it later.




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Leavers are generally thick, insular, ignorant c%nts. End of story. Sorry. Just look at this thread as an example! ROFLMAO!

Why don't you all go back to your slippered retirements and non-professional jobs? It would save us all a lot of trouble. Accept your positions in society and shut the f%ck-up, please. You are embarassing the UK.

[minerve] 11/12/2018 10:51

Leavers are generally thick, insular, ignorant c%nts. End of story. Sorry. Just look at this thread as an example! ROFLMAO!

Why don't you all go back to your slippered retirements and non-professional jobs? It would save us all a lot of trouble. Accept your positions in society and shut the f%ck-up, please. You are embarassing the UK.

[guss] 11/12/2018 10:43

Tell them we are not divorcing them.
We are just going to screw around with other countries and their kids from other relationships are not allowed into our house without our say so.

They should treat us as a special case because we are a special case.
We can then get on with our lives whilst they take decades to finally agree with us.

[stonedyou] 11/12/2018 10:40

Sorry monty that support level 50p is holding.....The Lloyds Group feels

obliged to say sorry to you just in case the negative feelings that you may feel

regarding the suggested 50p support level which hasn`t been breached(Yet) might

make you do something stupid.....Whatever that my be!!

[guss] 11/12/2018 10:27

We won’t have to pay the 39 billion. That’s for long term contracts and infrastructure and could be to our benefit to continue trading.

[poikka] 11/12/2018 10:23

M4rtnu - "Our best hope is that May gets headhunted by the EC", or preferably by residents in New Guinea - and one for the pot.

[xxxxxy] 11/12/2018 10:21

39 billion is a lot of peanuts. And to give that away for NOTHING indicates stupidity. Sorry.

[guss] 11/12/2018 10:18

Revoke artical 50 then tell the EU we are not excepting free movement of people. Like Cameron should have done.

What could they do? Kick us out, not a chance.

Then we could look at the influx of people that is 5 times worse from the the rest of the world with a points based “national requirement” system.

That would get my vote. EU contributions are peanuts and irrelevant.

[xxxxxy] 11/12/2018 10:06

May day

By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: DECEMBER 11, 2018

Yesterday Mrs May at last admitted she could not win the vote. She had to accept the Withdrawal Agreement was disliked by far too many MPs.

It was therefore a curious decision to spend the first half of the campaign rushing round the UK as if appealing to voters in a General Election, and to spend most of the last week-end wooing businesses as if they had some kind of bloc vote.

The Prime Minister did not once approach me about my intentions. Maybe she accepted my view and realised she could not change it. Her Chief of Staff told me I would be invited to a one to one meeting with her which never materialised. Several other MPs I have talked to were also left alone, when the government needed every Conservative to vote with it to give it any chance of winning. They had already lost the support of the DUP.

Stirring the country up did help generate a lot of constituency and nationwide correspondence. I received more messages to oppose her Agreement than to support, and many positive messages about the approach I took in the Parliamentary debate. It also shifted opinion against the Agreement. One recent poll says 62% wanted the Agreement voted down and only 25% support it.

Mrs May implied she can get some reassurances about the Irish backstop and then try again to get it voted through the Commons. That is very unlikely, given the magnitude of the opposition to it. There should be no doubt that this is a completely unacceptable surrender of powers and money by the UK for no good reason. This is allied to the very worrying treatment of Northern Ireland as some new country called UK (NI), to be treated differently for customs purposes and with different legislation to the rest of the UK. Even if the whole backstop was removed completely I would not vote for this one sided and unfair Agreement, and nor would a good many other Conservative MPs. What bargaining power would we have left for a better Future Partnership after signing away powers over laws, borders and money?

Only a large defeat will send a clear message to the EU that a few cosmetic changes to the Agreement will not be sufficient to get Parliament to change its mind, and to get them to understand we will be leaving with no Withdrawal Agreement unless they radically change their approach. The Prime Minister’s decision not to press the vote means there would have been a big defeat.

I have given Mrs May and her team plenty of advice to avoid this outcome which they have ignored. This Agreement is Mrs May’s Agreement, and this latest Project Fear campaign was her campaign. The more they run Project Fear and the more extreme they make it, the more most of the public shrugs its shoulders and scorns politicians who mouth such nonsense. Mrs May was unclear when she would bring this Agreement back for a vote, and unclear over whether it was even feasible to get changes to the legally binding text of the Withdrawal Agreement as opposed to the less important text of the vague Political Declaration.

Many MPs are asking why Ministers were made to go out and assert that the vote would definitely take place today, and why they had to maintain the fiction they would win. This has removed confidence in Mrs May from some more MPs who used to support her.

[grahamite2] 11/12/2018 10:05

Good post 346 Tyggareg (except that Minerva's fairly irrelevant).

It is indeed leavers who are dynamic, positive and looking to the future; remoaners are timorous wee beasties scared of their own shadow.

[stonedyou] 11/12/2018 09:39

DEAD IN THE WATER Theresa May flies in to beg EU leaders to change her Brexit deal – but they tell her there’s no chance





The Prime Minister is meeting Dutch PM Mark Rutte then Angela Merkel, Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk


THERESA May will today beg EU leaders to rescue her Brexit deal - but they've already said no.

The embattled PM has embarked on a tour of Europe in a desperate bid to fix the botched withdrawal agreement.




But in an early blow for the PM's chances of success, Mr Juncker has already said there is "no room whatsoever" to make any major changes to the Brexit deal

[tygarreg] 11/12/2018 09:29

Corbyn lost all his Scottish seats to SNP so he would need to win those back or form an alliance with Sturgeon to get a majority. So then we would have her dictating her poison every day of the week. What a mess we are in.

[stonedyou] 11/12/2018 09:22

What are the latest odds?

According to bookmakers Ladbrokes, the latest odds are as follows:

•Ministers to vote NO on the deal: 1/8


•Ministers to vote YES on the deal: 9/2


•A second referendum before the end of 2019: 5/4


•UK votes to REMAIN in second EU referendum before the end of 2019: 3/1


•UK votes to LEAVE in second EU referendum before the end of 2019: 7/2

[stonedyou] 11/12/2018 09:09

Being a parasite monty, what as The Lloyds Group done to deserve your presence..

And who have you paid to RED tick you up . . . . . .Typing four lines or parts of

as that exhausted you!

[montyhedge] 11/12/2018 09:01

With even money general election, Corbyn favourite to be next PM after May. Utilities, banks, telecoms watch out.Dollar earners would benefit as the pound drops to 1.15 against the dollar, if Corbyn in.Let's hope it does not happen.

[m4rtinu] 11/12/2018 08:57

Our best hope is that May gets headhunted by the EC whilst she is out and about "negotiating".

[montyhedge] 11/12/2018 08:56

Yes, good punt at right price.

[essentialinvestor] 11/12/2018 08:37

Monty, I'm wat EZJ for an opportunity, would only be a small buy though
if I have any.

[montyhedge] 11/12/2018 08:35

EssDon't know what Mike he said filtered years ago.Looks like a dead cat bounce on the markets, sterling weak helping dollar earners, domestic sterling earning stocks will suffer.

[essentialinvestor] 11/12/2018 08:29

Mike, Monty is a trader, as he admits openly.