Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[minerve 2] 02/2/2021 20:40

It is ridiculous that we depend on a 100 year old to raise funds for the NHS.

Nobody seems to think that is an issue.

Perhaps the fact he felt the need to act and, probably, through that endangered his life through increased exposure to many others (hence COVID) in his fame, is a sad reflection on the rest of us.

If you really admire Captain Tom, and you respect what he did for us, then you would be supporting anyone, including Labour, or the EU, in making sure the NHS is fully funded and wars in Europe never happen again.

This is why I find the whole thing hilarious. If you could only see yourselves in the chimp cage you built. ;)

(My comments are not directed towards ACE, just the rest of you)

[aceuk] 02/2/2021 20:35

No.4 - Boris and the DUP put the border in the Irish Sea and nobody else, they certainly did not inherit that from May or anyone eles.

Trade is an unfolding disaster and vaccines are no part of that.

[mr.elbee] 02/2/2021 20:19

positive comments cobourg...many thanks

[maxk] 02/2/2021 20:14

We can gain from Brussels' borderline madness

Ireland and the UK have closer ties of geography, language, trade, culture and common interests than either do with Brussels

CHARLES MOORE
2 February 2021 • 7:00am
Charles Moore





There is deserved derision for the European Commission’s decision – quickly rescinded – to impose a border in Ireland last Friday night in retaliation for what it claimed was a British attempt to deprive it of its rightful Covid vaccines.

But that decision was even more extraordinary than people realise – and may, perversely, be very helpful to Britain in future dealings, because:

1. The EU did actually impose a border: it did not just warn that it might. Obviously, in that short time, the border did not take physical form, but it existed. We therefore now know that the EU’s constant insistence that it will never impose a border between North and South is not true.

2. To justify imposing a border, the EU invoked Article 16 of the Northern Irish protocol, even though the issue had no direct connection with the people of Ireland – in the Republic or in the North. It therefore violated the spirit of the Good Friday Agreement.

3. It imposed the border without consulting the government of the Republic. Although the Republic of Ireland is an EU member state, the EU used Ireland’s own border unilaterally as a political pawn. Imagine the global outcry if Britain had done the same. On this occasion, Boris Johnson and the Irish prime minister, Micheal Martin, were essentially on the same side, both telephoning Ursula von der Leyen to get her off her high horse. The Republic can trust Britain on this issue much better than it can trust Brussels.

4. By acting as it has done, the EU has violated the principle which Theresa May so foolishly conceded to it in 2016 (and which is NOT part of the Good Friday Agreement) that there can never be any form of border between North and South. This strengthens Britain’s hand as we try to sort out the tangle our Government inherited from Mrs May, including the conundrum about checks in the Irish Sea.

So we may rediscover, at the end of all this, something which the sad early 20th-century history of Ireland has obscured. The people of Ireland and the people of the United Kingdom have much closer ties of geography, language, trade, culture and common interests, than do either with the Brussels which in recent times has so often claimed to speak for Ireland.

[poikka] 02/2/2021 20:05

Regarding Capt. Tom: we can only hope that people will learn from him to show respect to others, themselves and also to the democratic processes which have been so shamelessly trashed by so many in recent times.

[poikka] 02/2/2021 20:03

After the vaccine debacle, and the shellfish ban, never again will the UK be able to trust the EU Commission - at least, certainly not while Little Miss Trashy's the President.

Here's the wording regarding the 21st April bit:

". a revised aquaculture certificate is expected to come into force from 21 April 2021 for LBMs originating from the wild as well as those from aquaculture farms, subject to agreement by EU member states. It will be part of the new EU Animal Health Regulations."

[aceuk] 02/2/2021 20:02

Whatever anyone says Captain Sir Tom Moore was an old school gentleman who as far as I could tell behaved impeccably in his unsought notoriety.

The United Kingdom would be in a much better place with a few more of his ilk, as would Europe.

[jasierock] 02/2/2021 19:56

Double post

[jasierock] 02/2/2021 19:56

Haven't been in here for months but I see the ever eloquent Min is still on furlough from the high security unit at Rampton giving him all the time in the world to spew endless bile.

I'm really enjoying the first few weeks without the German... I mean the EU telling us how to go on. Enjoying it Min?

Was very sad to hear of the passing of Sir Tom but pleased he went out in a blaze if glory.

When Min leaves us, he will simply be flushed down the toilet like a dead fairground goldfish.

[utrickytrees] 02/2/2021 19:53

xxxxxxx Jock News xxxxxxxx

Salmond's tanks are on the lawns at Bute house & Sturgeons on her way out the back door.

[josh 32] 02/2/2021 19:01

Don't reflect on the fact 100,000 deaths from covid would have been lower if that clown Boris hadn't been elected.Then we would have had Mr Corbyn my government will negotiate with EU on brexit but we don't know if we will back the deal we negotiated as prime minister,deputy leader Tom Watson , chancellor of Exchequer John Mcdonald, home Secretary I will recruit 20,000 police men for 300,000 pounds extra annual budget Diane Abbott,Secretary state for education Angela Rayner where are these giants of British politics now when we need them to step up ???

[portside1] 02/2/2021 18:26

The fact is each mm trades is shares for is company But he can tell a client he will drop the share price at a certain time for is client to buy or sell.Which is illegal but it done by all of them .MMS do not work for the pi They only act for the company they work for And close friends

[portside1] 02/2/2021 18:09

That's the problem every one is using Covid to sack people and cut divs and drive the pi investments down forcing them to sell They panic the small holders Its called. Manipulation by the mms Then they get there friends and family to buy at the bottom This is why they are very rich and there family

[cobourg1] 02/2/2021 17:53

Mortgage debt will be sold on...banks never lose out!

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Banks can only lose on mortgages if they have lent more than the house or the debt can ultimately be sold for. Short of a total collapse of the housing market and a negative equity situation that almost never happens. No sign of that at the moment.

It's the poor sod who has gone into default and is kicked out into the street who has to bear the loss.

Add that to all the loans that the banks made which are guaranteed by the government and I can't buy all this bad debt hand-wringing. Lloyds have over provided for loan impairments as far as I can see. I don't see how it can possibly be used as an excuse for not paying a dividend, but I don't think it will be.

[minerve 2] 02/2/2021 17:52

LOL

Rattled?


Guffaw guffaw