Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[maxk] 31/1/2021 23:40

Manipulated cp? ... Huge lol


The real question is...Why?

[cheshire pete] 31/1/2021 23:34

Patient Capital: "Influenza all but wiped out this season with a 95% drop in infections. Good news and bad. With so few cases to work with those developing next season’s jabs have few pointers on which strain to target. Immunity will have been greatly reduced as well meaning that the potential for the disease to be severe next season is heightened."

Seems odd that fewer than normal getting flu now that COVID is around. Think Sir Patrick Swayne was right when he said the other day that the data has been manipulated.

[scruff1] 31/1/2021 21:29

877
or Remainers suddenly care about Scotland (or anywhere else out of their metropolitan bubble)

[jkitwm] 31/1/2021 21:21

The jocks won't last two seconds without piggy backing their English masters

[jkitwm] 31/1/2021 21:21

Stansmith another loser whose tears are flooding our houses

[utrickytrees] 31/1/2021 21:17

Coming from a Nationalist Jock I'll take that as a compliment'

[stansmith3] 31/1/2021 20:53

utickygrow up and stop being a thick little francois

[cheshire pete] 31/1/2021 20:49

Good leader in the ST, and article by Tim Stanley questioning how did Joe Biden get it so wrong on the EU.

[stonedyou] 31/1/2021 20:43

Even the rabidly pro EU Guardian is sticking the boot in

[utrickytrees] 31/1/2021 18:50

Well done Stan, big step in the right direction.

[joestalin] 31/1/2021 18:23

Lord Adonis was thinking about his own career in an unaccountable money tree. Just like Kinnock, Mandelson, and the rest of the gravy train passengers.

[maxk] 31/1/2021 18:06

So, Lord Adonis et al, what price Remain now?

The European project has been found horribly wanting by the Covid pandemic, which has brutally exposed its deep faultlines


MARK FRANCOIS
30 January 2021 • 9:30pm




The last 48 hours have witnessed extraordinary events, whereby the European Commission has attempted to invoke a little known Article in a UK/EU treaty to somehow mitigate its own terrible failings in rolling out a discredited and faltering vaccination programme for its increasingly angry citizens.

The Northern Ireland Protocol (NIP) is not part of the Prime Minister's recently concluded Trade and Co-operation Agreement with the EU.

Rather, it forms part of the earlier, revised, Withdrawal Agreement by which we legally departed the European Union a year ago today. The NIP replaced the dreaded "backstop" under which the UK could have been trapped in a trade-limiting customs union forever, without any unilateral exit mechanism.

Instead, the NIP is intended to regulate trade between Northern Ireland and the EU but also between NI and Great Britain as NI remains part of the EU Customs Union, whereas Great Britain does not. The NIP came into force on January 1 and already there have been problems in its operation, leading to serious bureaucratic delays in both GB/NI and NI/GB trade which the European Research Group that I chair is now actively highlighting to senior ministers.

Article 16 of the NIP (Safeguards) allows either party to adopt unspecified "safeguarding measures" to protect its trade position. If one side invokes the Article, under Annex 7, the other has the legal right essentially to retaliate in kind. It is this Article which the European Commission was citing to ban the export of vaccines from the EU to the UK.

Time and again during what I call the "Battle for Brexit" we were bullied by the European Commission (and Theresa May) to accept the shameful "backstop", to supposedly prevent the creation of a hard border on the Island of Ireland and thus uphold the Good Friday Agreement.

However, in an act of absolutely stunning hypocrisy, the European Commission has just advocated creating a metaphorical hard border for vaccines, purely for its own purposes. In doing this – without, it appears, even consulting Dublin properly beforehand – the commission did not so much "throw the Irish under a bus" as whack the double-decker straight into reverse and back right over them again.

The European project has been found horribly wanting by the pandemic. The crisis has brutally exposed its deep faultlines of massive, ponderous bureaucracy and decisions taken for EU protectionism and corporate advantage rather than the welfare of its own citizens, who are now rightfully furious with their inept political masters.

This botched "crie de coeur" by the advocates of the project seems desperately intended to mask their own failings by somehow blame-shifting onto Perfidious Albion instead. However, this is also an opportunity. We should announce a complete review of the NI Protocol to iron out its operational problems and, if necessary, even consider replacing it entirely.

Either way, this whole episode has starkly exposed just how brutally the European Commission can behave when its interests are threatened.

So, Lord Adonis et al, what price Remain now?

[maxk] 31/1/2021 18:02

With the most incompetent buyers ever.

[utrickytrees] 31/1/2021 17:56

Bang on Joe, there is no room for the EU what is their purpose ?They're little more than a purchasing organisation