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[joestalin] 29/1/2021 19:58

You can always trust the EU to lead from the front!

Now, that is sarcasm!

[diku] 29/1/2021 19:55

It looks like EU are looking for a scapegoat to blame somebody for Vaccine delays...and seeing UK well advanced...

[joestalin] 29/1/2021 19:53

"Scottish independence is an hilarious concept lol."

Not necessarily. If its status was changed to that of Jersey or the IoM, they would be able to set their own taxes, mint their own currency, withdraw from the Barnett formula, and the English could go there for a cheap holiday!

[1carus] 29/1/2021 19:50

N Ireland / EU border Agreement renagued on.... border no longer in the Irish sea!!!

Oh! dear!!

[xxxxxy] 29/1/2021 19:40

Lessons learned.NEVER EVER TRUST THE WORD, OR AGREEMENT, OR ANYTHING WITH THE EUSSR AGAIN.

[dr biotech] 29/1/2021 19:39

85% didn’t get severe symptoms. It’s easy enough to what the different figures refer to, but would be helpful to sing off the same songsheet. That’s how simpletons such as elbee get confused.

[maxk] 29/1/2021 19:32

EU threatens war-time occupation of vaccine makers as AstraZeneca crisis spirals

Invoking powers that would allow the European Council to seize intellectual property and data from pharmaceutical companies would be madness



AMBROSE EVANS-PRITCHARD
29 January 2021 • 3:20pm
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard



The EU sledgehammer is coming down. The European Council is preparing to invoke emergency powers of Article 122 against AstraZeneca and Big Pharma within days.

This nuclear option paves the way for the seizure of intellectual property and data, and arguably direct control over the production process – tantamount to war-time occupation of private companies. This is Europe First pushed to another level. It takes the EU into the territory of 1930s methods and an authoritarian command economy.

Charles Michel, President of the European Council, is being badgered by member states to take action before the escalating vaccine crisis mutates into a political crisis as well and starts to topple governments. He is offering them the most extreme option available in the Lisbon Treaty.

Article 122 allows the EU to take emergency steps “if severe difficulties arise in the supply of certain products”, or “if a Member State is in difficulties or is seriously threatened with severe difficulties caused by natural disasters or exceptional occurrences beyond its control”.

Mr Michel raised the idea in a letter to four prime ministers on Wednesday night. He is now canvassing all 27 leaders. The clear intention is to hold AstraZeneca’s feet to the fire.


“We can do this very quickly,” said one EU official. “We have to be prepared. That does not mean we will necessarily use it.”

The process requires a proposal from the Commission, followed by a qualified majority vote in the Council. Article 122 could be activated within days.

Germany has become the hardest of hard-liners, departing ever further from its traditional role as a good global citizen and defender of markets. The dirigiste economy minister, Peter Altmaier, says he favours seizing control of the production process and ordering companies to manufacture vaccines at multiple sites, with a gun to their head. Germany has moved a long way from the Wirtschaftswunder of Ludwig Erhard.


Lost in this squalid saga is the relevant fact that AstraZeneca is not making money out of the vaccine. It is producing it at cost as a service to the world. It has produced a miracle in 10 months as its exhausted staff are working gruelling hours to lift output as fast as they can. Their reward is a police raid at the behest of the European Commission.

Britain is vaccinating rapidly today because the Government began preparing the ground last February, three months before it ordered the AstraZeneca vaccine. It bathed the pharma companies with love. It fast-tracked clinical trials. It waived normal liabilities rules. It did not haggle over prices.



Full story here:

[k38] 29/1/2021 19:23

Pelosi Bought $1 Million In Tesla Stock Days Before The Biden Administration Released Plans On Buying 645,000 Electric VehiclesPaul Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi's husband bought $1 million worth of Tesla shares just days before the Biden administration released plans that they would replace current government-owned vehicles with an all-new electric vehicle fleet.Tesla stock has been a darling of Wall Street for years, and the company stands to reap huge profits if the federal government moves to an all-electric fleet.The federal government has more than 645,000 cars in the fleet.Pelosi makes close to $174,000 a year but her net worth is close to 120 million.Vampires and mummies...

[utrickytrees] 29/1/2021 19:16

The only thing that's good about Belgium is that you can do the whole country on the train in a long weekend. What a vacuous waste of space lacking any cultural identity Belgium is....its a complete nomark of a country. Look at Belgium at the centre of europe with C 10M population and you fear for Scotland in terms of geography Scotland IS isolated. What does Scotland have to offer anyone if it is not part of his UK. Scottish independence is an hilarious concept lol.

[drectly] 29/1/2021 19:08

100% did not go to hospital or die
66% less got COVID than the group without the vaccine
The Press tends to select a number that fits with that days story.
It is though more very good news regards vaccines at a bad time.

[jordaggy] 29/1/2021 19:05

To be fair to the torygraph, they made us aware of the false numbers with regards to what counts as a covid death or patient. If you break your leg, go into hospital, test positive, you are classed as a 'hospitalised' covid patient.
I can't bare to watch the British Brainwashing Corporations news anymore. Its all propaganda, designed by the behavioural psychologists within the sage group...and I have to say, they've done a brilliant job. I see covidiots out jogging in the park wearing masks...unbelievable.

[maxk] 29/1/2021 18:56

diku29 Jan '21 - 17:29 - 330699 of 330710


Time for a hosepipe ban.

[xxxxxy] 29/1/2021 18:47

Chester Songatwilight29 Jan 2021 6:43PMWho in their right mind would invest in manufacturing in the EU now?They can literally steal your IP.

[xxxxxy] 29/1/2021 18:44

Thomas Cromwell29 Jan 2021 6:43PMI've posted similar comments before but, as a former remain voter in 2016, I am starting to hate the EU in a way that I have never felt towards any other foreign power. In the immortal words of Ronald Reagan, they are 'the evil empire'.... Daily Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 29/1/2021 18:36

We have Witnessed the EUSSR.The Place of the FAECES. Do not forget. Do not forgive.Remember.

[xxxxxy] 29/1/2021 18:35

EUSSR = GESTAPO + BONKERS

[xxxxxy] 29/1/2021 18:34

EU threatens war-time occupation of vaccine makers as AstraZeneca crisis spiralsInvoking powers that would allow the European Council to seize intellectual property and data from pharmaceutical companies would be madnessAMBROSE EVANS-PRITCHARD29 January 2021 • 3:20pm... Daily Telegraph

[psychochopper] 29/1/2021 18:26

Min has played a blinder today - the stupidometer has required a servicing, but is awaiting spare parts from Belgium, so I’m not sure when it will be working next. Nevertheless, when it broke down, it was pointing at 11.

[scruff1] 29/1/2021 18:16

jordaggy
These numbers dont add up. The effectiveness of Johnson and Johnson's new vaccine is according to
Telegraph 100%
Sky 85%
BBC (surprise) 66%
Cant all be correct and there is a huge variation

[k38] 29/1/2021 18:15

Another weekend...Time for the bottle M2 Lol...

[utrickytrees] 29/1/2021 17:56

Push boat out Merv....have 3 way with yourself, its Friday!

[lefrene] 29/1/2021 17:33

Joe Stalin, perhaps they will set up retirement camps for the seniors?! Just to keep them out of harms way you understand............