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[utrickytrees] 06/12/2020 12:35

The Jocks love a good moan they're genetically programmed to object to everything gives them an excuse to do fkall.

[careful] 06/12/2020 12:35

Ironic how smaller poorer countries such as Rumania, Poland and other East European countries with troubled histories joined he EU. and transformed their wealth.

Now the trend is for isolationism.
The UK wish to go it alone.
So do the SNP.

Brexiteers and the SNP have much in common.
They ignore the advantages of belonging to a larger unit.
Most informed thinkers believe that a terrible economic risk is being taken.

But Boris is not that stupid, he was once pro European.

He will get a deal with compromises and face the music.
Just ignore the rabble, show leadership.

[utrickytrees] 06/12/2020 12:32

Expect Merkel to call Macron to heel next week & the white flags raised from Mont st Jean to Agincourt! Frosty will be made a Duke & Fish Friday to be bolstered with Mackerel Monday & Whiting wednesday all washed down with kiwi sauvignon.

[maxk] 06/12/2020 12:26

Very good news for jock fisherman bob. Why the sneering?

[minerve 2] 06/12/2020 12:26

"They were pretty good at putting the lights out - anything but putting in a shift."

Do the Tory boys, particularly the Eton tribe, really look like they have "put in a shift"? Probably never had to put a "shift" in all their lives. Boris is a prime example. I'm surprised he didn't text Ursula, rather than phone, so he could quickly get back to doing nothing.

Those people in those unions you speak of, knew what a shift was, and as humans they have a right to voice their concerns of working conditions and the share of the profits that their hard work has made.

Shame on you for having that view. All those Man U fans of yours, stood next to you on the terraces back then, were working class men who have a right to be heard. Thatcher was not your friend, Thatcher does not represent you and never did, and neither do the Tories now.

They are Eton boys, you are a working class man, wake up Scruffs and smell the coffee.

[bargainbob] 06/12/2020 12:22

Hope you get your no deal guys , roll on Scottish Independence and little fish for you all .

[alphorn] 06/12/2020 12:20

M2 - the amusing part is the UK today is still a part of the Single Market, the Customs Union and the financial agreements and struggling.
Short positions ready and loaded. Will they be needed? ;)

[scruff1] 06/12/2020 12:09

Careful
I thought it was only Leavers who kept using the war thing. When it suits hey?
We were the sick man of Europe because of the basket case unions. They were pretty good at putting the lights out - anything but putting in a shift. Thatcher dealt with them. She should get more appreciation than she does. Big worry is that the lefty liberals running this ship will have em back in control in a blink. Somebody needs to put a big foot on the monsters throat and keep it there

[minerve 2] 06/12/2020 12:04

The process has to come to an end, this week. Sick and tired of this circus. Time to move on and deal with the Brexit cancer rather than talking about it.

[xxxxxy] 06/12/2020 12:04

Alexandra Phillips. Alittle known line in Monsieur Barnier's CV details his tenure as the French government's minister for the ecological transition. It sounds as gratuitous as the many working groups in the European Parliament that produce more hot air than the carbon emissions they purport to tackle. Yet it means he has had to handle the hectoring of French fishermen, known for their mercurial propensity to fight for the right to fish, whatever and whenever, or turn their fleet into navires de guerre, particularly in the Channel. If there's one thing the French do with aplomb it's to coordinate a grève.So it is hardly a surprise that the negotiator should do the bidding of his compatriot Macron, scarred by the Gilets Jaunes, facing fractious unrest in Paris over policing rules and pandemic policy and looming elections next year. When it comes to poisson, one country will dig its heels in, exposing the farce of a project where policy is determined on a catch-all basis.The London-centric media is filled with dismissive incredulity at the perceived blockage in negotiations coming down to fish, which they like to remind us represents only 0.12 per cent of GDP, never having sported a sou'wester nor bothered to set foot in the likes of Grimsby to see first hand the social deprivation that the destruction of an island nation's fishing industry has wrought on coastal communities. The sneering is typically focused on the UK, rather than what this percentage of catch laughably represents to a political bloc of 500 million citizens where four landlocked member states receive millions in fishing subsidies. To us, the debate orbits around the future of entire coastal communities and the optimism of what sovereignty over 630 miles of coastline could entail. To Brussels, it is sheer profligacy and mercantilism. Under the EU's Common Fisheries Policy, UK fishermen are limited to just over a third of the total catch from their own waters. The fact that the British fleet's net profit is still the EU's highest and second only to Spain in terms of tonnage serves to demonstrate the potential profitability in retaking our seas. The UK fleet has declined by about 30 per cent over the past two decades, while the EU takes six times more fish from our waters as we do from theirs. Meanwhile independent Iceland and Norway land well over three quarters of catch from their own seas. The £580 million price tag on the fish the EU is eyeing up is dwarfed by the £900 million a day we are currently throwing at our pandemic response, but British fish processing is actually a £4.2 billion pound industry. Multiply that if our catch were to triple, and suddenly a boom business emerges.The UK wants to reassert a 200 mile economic exclusion zone around its coastline, as is the norm under the UN's Law of the Sea, and has already managed to negotiate reciprocal access with non-EU Norway, exposing Brussels's position as an aberration in international protocol. Yet when it comes to fish, the EU is rarely one to back down. One need only look at multiple Economic Partnership Agreements and conditions of aid with the world's poorest countries to realise that Brussels's appetite for ocean fare is grotesque gluttony. The indiscriminate trawling of seas around the Horn of Africa has directly contributed to the rise of piracy while just last year, the EU happily broke international law and jeopardised a UN peace process to hammer out a fishing deal with Morocco in the disputed territory of Western Sahara. The opening gambit of Barnier's negotiating team that the bloc would accept a cut of 15 to 18 per cent in its share of catch in British waters is risible and far from the 80 per cent UK control tabled by Lord Frost, in line with our Scandinavian neighbours. The Conservatives are doubtless aware, too, that 186 coastal constituencies make a Brexit-backing ring around the country, while the aptly named Nicola Sturgeon would be forced to explain to Scottish fishermen, whose North East fleet accounts for half of the UK industry, why she would want to hand newly gained fishing rights back to Brussels. But perhaps above all is the startling symbolism of sovereign sacrifice in casting aside national dominion over our seas. British fishermen, I am sure, would be more than happy to see North Sea cod land on continental plates. But it is surely their prerogative to sell it.... Daily Telegraph

[asa8] 06/12/2020 12:02

Im still looking for a black Santa on the adverts because everything else is black if Michael Jackson came back now he would be going back to black

[polar fox] 06/12/2020 12:01

Latest:

“We will be working very hard to try to get a deal,” Frost told reporters at the Brussels train station as he arrived from London by Eurostar train. “We will be looking forward to meeting our European colleagues later on this afternoon.”

[utrickytrees] 06/12/2020 12:01

Who do you think you are kidding Mr Macron .....

[minerve 2] 06/12/2020 12:01

How romantic.

[grahamite2] 06/12/2020 11:59

We can do no better than heed the words of William Pitt the Younger, who declared in 1805: “England has saved herself by her exertions, and will, as I trust, save Europe by her example.”

[xxxxxy] 06/12/2020 11:58

EUSSR = Animal Farm in our time.Goodbye to all that.No DealWTOLiberty

[xxxxxy] 06/12/2020 11:56

Lauren Sullivan5 Dec 2020 6:25PMPointless purgatory continues. This is simply now a PR exercise so that both sides look like they tried, when in reality No Deal is all but certain. I for one am happy with that.457LikeReplyPhilip A D Secretan5 Dec 2020 6:27PM@Lauren Sullivan Me too! In spades!177LikeReplyElizabeth Kirkby5 Dec 2020 6:24PMExcellent news! Now, let us make our final farewell to the EU with a clean break immediately. No more talking; just finalise our departure without a trade deal being done. ... Daily Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 06/12/2020 11:54

Don Coyote5 Dec 2020 6:25PMWe liberated them, rebuilt them, defended them and they treat us like hostile enemies.Cancel negotiations, cancel the WA on the grounds that they have clearly negotiated in bad faith and re-orient the entire British state towards bringing down the undemocratic EU before they build an army.516LikeReplyPhilip A D Secretan5 Dec 2020 6:29PM@Don Coyote I agree with your first paragraph, but I have no wish to  "bring them down". Let them continue in their own, muddled, way.210LikeReplyBob Wright5 Dec 2020 6:31PM@Philip A D Secretan @Don Coyote . They will bring themselves down without our help. Merkel may personally strangle Macron!... Daily Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 06/12/2020 11:52

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[investtofly] 06/12/2020 11:51

Can't beat a good dose of nepotism.......