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[minerve 2] 01/11/2020 14:15

Utricky

I agree that the T Cell issue needs to be addressed because it is madness to have policy without those questions being answered.

[maxk] 01/11/2020 14:15

We've got as much idea as the plonkers in charge.

[careful] 01/11/2020 14:11

We are all experts on viruses now.

[utrickytrees] 01/11/2020 13:45

I think Sage are having to assume no immunity because the only practical test for the presence of antibodies is white blood cell analysis. What Eaton is saying is that in reality immunity is being obtained fro T cells but because there is no easy way of testing TCell immunity they have to assume that it doesnt exist. This is fuking madness.

[utrickytrees] 01/11/2020 13:32

M2 good stuff! His theory/ figures do support the distribution of infection...the so called 2nd wave is actually the first wave in outlying areas. If London doesnt see a 2nd wave, I'm inclined to agree with him.....the virus is on it's way out.

[minerve 2] 01/11/2020 13:16

Utricky

I watched the video.

I think Mike Eaton makes decent argument however he states that other scientists are assuming people were not already inherently immune to the virus because their bodies had already had exposure to A coronavirus whereas he is assuming they are. The truth is either way we don't know for sure. He makes a valid argument on the T-Cell issue and I don't understand why more weight hasn't been thrown behind this argument. However, facts are facts, and hospitals in the North are being overloaded which may not be reason enough to have another nationwide lockdown but I haven't seen the figures for London and the SE.

[stonedyou] 01/11/2020 13:10

"It is people who are over 85 and those who are already unwell who account for the

vast majority of deaths. We must increase the number of staff in care homes by a

minimum of 20 per cent and set up specialist clinical teams to support them. And

we should prevent staff moving between care homes and taking the virus with them.

We must recognise, too, that a dangerous percentage of infections occur within

hospitals themselves and seek to guard against them. Hospital-acquired infections

may account for up to 25 per cent of Covid cases on the wards. In the North West

of England, they recently made up 24 per cent of all Covid patients."

[utrickytrees] 01/11/2020 13:03

S6, 12.43 TO 12.56 so it is possible you watched the link, but I'm fairly confident you havent lol.

EKU, some on here are living proof :)

[smartie6] 01/11/2020 12:56

Stonedyou and tricky must have escaped from the same asylum?

[ekuuleus] 01/11/2020 12:55

Tricky, researching the common cold was a cover story for biological and chemical weapons research

During the war conscientious objectors were used for testing.

[stonedyou] 01/11/2020 12:43

5xy

"Not done and dusted, yet. Email, contact your MP's and tell them you did not vote for SAGE or Armageddon"

[utrickytrees] 01/11/2020 12:43

Smartie6
I’ve said it since day one, there is no immunity and no vaccine. 20plus years they’ve tried for a whole plethora of common virus and no success.
Have you noticed that when the markets need a rise the old “vaccine is just around the corner” quote comes out. Then the truth is advised. Now we have, “a vaccine will be available but not as potent as hoped”. Also after 3months the antibodies are no longer in the body and you can catch it again. I don’t even have to say mutations.
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If you stopped flapping your gob for one moment and clicked some of the links folk post you might emerge from your hobbit like hole. For your benefit I will post this mornings link of 7.47am do try & have a look at it, it's only 10mins.

[minerve 2] 01/11/2020 12:37

The ONLY mushroom tip on your body is on top of your neck! ;)

[minerve 2] 01/11/2020 12:33

I wonder what Dominic has been reading?

The Shock Doctrine: The strategy by the world's economic elites of imposing an extremely neoliberal economic regime on communities they control, using some form of shock: a natural disaster, a coup d'etat, a war, a financial crisis, etc. Once the community has been crippled by this first shock, the economic "reforms" are imposed suddenly, creating a secondary blow. Then, as the community begins to recover and fight back, the authorities use torture and police brutality to (literally) shock the community a third time.

[utrickytrees] 01/11/2020 12:26

Local lockdown measures were succeeding infection rates were slowing M2. It would appear that it's easier to lockdown the economy than manage non covid procedures within the NHS inline with covid demand...thats all I'm saying.

[minerve 2] 01/11/2020 12:18

Come on Utricky, you are supposed to be an investor, which means thinking about the future. If infections are doubling every nine days then it will not take long before that 3,000/day is reached.