Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[mitchy] 01/11/2020 08:39

I'm confused. If people can still go to work why is there a mortgage holiday ?

[smartie6] 01/11/2020 08:37

So you feel the pain for a few weeks but that cost is worth it if you save lives, no?
So the markets crash next week and you lose a bit of wealth but the cost is worth it if you save lives, no?
Just be honest in your self interests. We’d respect you fkrs more.

[diku] 01/11/2020 08:33

This second lockdown coming aimed at businesses or for people...mixed signals...I guess more details coming tomorrow when presented to HOC...then debates of the debates...

[xxxxxy] 01/11/2020 08:32

Tweet?Simon Dolan #KBF@simondolan·15mMP's to vote Wednesday. You must email them and let them know you will not accept another deadly Lockdown. Tell them how it affects your life.Make them see just how much pain this will inflict.Make it personal, not a template Please RT-we need numbers?Find MPs - MPs and Lords - UK Parliamentmembers.parliament.uk

[alphorn] 01/11/2020 08:29

This is the 'I'm all right Jack' thread of mostly retirees who hate anyone who has a different view to their own.

[smartie6] 01/11/2020 08:25

On the same side we also have the under 25’s, the ones that have mixed, eaten out, and we’ve seen on the streets hugging and kissing strangers after 10pm at night. Those that don’t give a damn as it can’t touch them until they kill a family member.

[smartie6] 01/11/2020 08:20

From what I’m seeing on here, post after post, please start with I own my own business and have acquired wealth through the hard work of others and now I am feeling a little pain. Then maybe we’ll give a little more respect for honesty. FFS, listen yourselves, people have died and continue to die through inaction and self interests.

[mitchy] 01/11/2020 08:19

You are correct sir. Looked at closely there really doesn't seem much difference from the norm. Last time they closed businesses and schools.I think it's a message from the government that we have to live with this thing. Though I don't agree with closing golf courses. They could have just closed the 19th hole.

[smartie6] 01/11/2020 08:16

Jl5006, a socialist nightmare?
All for one and one for one.
I hear the BS argument about this just being a light strain of flu and the impact on mental illness day after day and those selling this propaganda BS are those generally with an agenda. Those who’ve lived life off the back of others, reaping the rewards who now have daily pressures added and can’t cope. Saying farewell to your Mercedes and your luxury villa in France.
When it touches you like many families out there you may have a different perspective but until then you’re just another self important idiot who feels a little pain and cannot cope for a few weeks or months.
Probably the ones who initially spread COVID and were the first to hire a private plane to take family and friends to their own private villa.

[xxxxxy] 01/11/2020 07:58

Lockdown has been tried many times now, and does not work. It has been tried over and over all the way from  China. It is ineffective and not fit for purpose. Continuation with a failed tool, is irresponsible to all, and possibly opens the door to legal considerations. Better to have management of shieding the vulnerable. And allow the rest to live and work and play. For everyone's sake and particularly the children and the young. Lockdown is not fit for purpose. Management please, not politics. Solutions please, not lies and political point scoring.

[vauch] 01/11/2020 07:58

Also how come we don't hear about Covid in China anymore?
A lot of country's started ganging up on China because it has become so big in world supply.
So did China let this virus out to put the would bac in it box, the only country at the end of this to come out on top.
So where will all the country's eventually borrow the money from (China)

[xxxxxy] 01/11/2020 07:56

Get a barrow for Christmas. Barrow of money needed to buy a loaf of bread. Get a pitchfork too.

[xxxxxy] 01/11/2020 07:53

Reduced R. Delays but does not eradicate

[xxxxxy] 01/11/2020 07:52

What is the point of a lock down?By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: NOVEMBER 1, 2020The first national lock down was said to be for one main reason – to save the NHS. The NHS was short of Intensive care beds and breathing systems at a time when that was thought to be the only treatment for bad cases of CV 19. This time the government advisers say hospital admissions may stay below the April peak which was handled, or may be three times that level. What is the use of such massive ranges as forecasts?The time of that lockdown was used to procure many more ventilators, to put in four large new Nightingale hospitals and to expand ICU capacity in existing hospitals. More nurses and doctors were hired, and recently retired qualified staff were tempted back to help with the crisis. The peak demand in April was comfortably accommodated by the NHS. Serious cases came down, though some argued the peak had been reached at or before the lock down started. As we went into summer with more Ultra violet light and warmer temperatures which both damage the virus case numbers stayed relatively low.The lock down also gave the medical and scientific establishments more time to research the virus, to understand more about its transmission and its impact on infected people. As a result we now know than some steroids, anti virals and clot busting drugs can make a difference to serious cases and can save some lives.Today we are told there needs to be an extensive "circuit breaker". It's a strange analogy, because of course a circuit breaker immediately cancels all dangerous power in a system, whereas a lock down does not immediately turn the virus off. When you put a circuit breaker back on full power is restored immediately, but what I assume these scientists want to do is to use a period of lock down to bring virus spread down, before resuming some relaxation which on their analysis will allow some drift back up. How does this help? How much relaxation would they allow and how much extra virus circulation would they find acceptable? Why are we not given measurable targets in advance so we can see what they are trying to achieve?The advisers rightly warn us there may be no magic bullet or solution early next year in the form of a vaccine which offers full protection.This means the true question to answer is how do we live with this virus? What is the right mix of policy to keep the spread down, to protect the vulnerable, but to allow more jobs and activity than we currently enjoy?It is no good the government imposing a whole new raft of controls over people's daily lives if there is insufficient buy in by the public. To work people have to be persuaded it is necessary to follow the rules, and the rules have to be the minimum to keep virus spread down sensibly . What controls do you think are necessary?

[vauch] 01/11/2020 07:51

When this pandemic was in first wave most of the data on testing and deaths was from hospitals, but now with mas testing of all ages the r number has raced away with mas testing of the younger generation that mostly don't get ill but carry the disease.
This has skewed the r some what.
Also local lock downs have not had the time to show results yet.

[utrickytrees] 01/11/2020 07:44

'Its a massive claim but I (mike Yeadon snr virologist with pfizer) think the pandemic is fundamentally over.

He disagrees with SAGE who have modelled the spread on a susceptibility rate of 90% of the population. Yeardon insists Sage are wrong with their immunity claims and put the susceptibility figure at only 28% of the population.

I'm only a simpleton but can see how the current R rate and death rates support Yeadons claims. MORE dodgy maths from SAGE? Certainly appears that way to me.

[scruff1] 01/11/2020 07:41

Pander
Sensible comment but non essential and leisure (including hospitality) are massive employers - or they used to be once upon a time.

[k38] 31/10/2020 23:59

I agree with you.. and this virus was the perfect excuse to make NHS the best in the world. A miss opportunity. Now he has to waste even more money and with 3rd wave, I am sure, countries will bankrupt and money will become useless. Maybe that's what they want to achieve in the end of the day, who knows...

[maxk] 31/10/2020 23:48

It's only funny money am, plenty more where that came from ..