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[stonedyou] 11/10/2020 23:12

Michael Moore's documentary 'has exposed green energy as a fraud'

[cheshire pete] 11/10/2020 23:11

Message to Merkel.....we've left, gone, goodbye. Well done Boris.

[minerve 2] 11/10/2020 23:02

Loving this season finale - the shot of Marine One landing and dramatic mask pull off and now the star says he is a perfect specimen. Does the US voter realise they are in a TV show? 😂 can’t wait for the indictment and bankruptcy - season 2 will rock.

[cheshire pete] 11/10/2020 22:22

UK farming a big success story, envy of the world.
Let's re-build our fishing industry to former prominence after wrecked by EU membership.
No deal. WTO.

[xxxxxy] 11/10/2020 22:14

David Cornwall11 Oct 2020 9:53PMIn what possible context could it be in the interest of the UK to accept a level playing field with the EU.  Already our standards are higher, our state aid is but a fraction of the major economies within the EU and they disregard the rules when it suits them.Our waters will be reclaimed and we will control the fishing opportunities based on up to date science.  Macron must wind his neck in or s*d off.  We are sick of the EU raping and destroying our waters.If Boris does not deliver full sovereignty we will find someone that will.  Duplicitous eunuchs posing as MPs  are ten a penny.  We trust none of them and will sling out as many as it takes to get Brexit done in full.20UnlikeReplyTadgh Murphy11 Oct 2020 9:56PMYou'll have to eat all that fish as you won't be able to sell it tariff free in the EU anymore.Do wonders for your obesity problem.1LikeReplyDavid Cornwall11 Oct 2020 10:01PM@Tadgh MurphyWe don`t need to catch more than we can eat or sell to appreciative nations.  This under fishing will allow the stocks to recover while we build up our fishing fleet with new state of the art trawlers and expand our FTAs with other quality fish eating nations.2LikeReply

[cheshire pete] 11/10/2020 22:11

Polls said Clinton would win. She lost.
Polls always say labour will win or Tory lead narrowing at the last. Yet Labour not won since Blair in 1997.
Polls never reflect actual outcome. Polls carried out by lefties.
Still expect Trump victory.
UTricky right...it'll be our lefty civil servants cosying up to Biden.

[maxk] 11/10/2020 20:49

Here it comes...




Why Britain should change its employment laws

Home workers shouldn’t expect the same rights as those based in the office, says Matthew Lynn.


by: Matthew Lynn
11 OCT 2020



Back in the spring, we thought that working from home would be a temporary change. The economy was locked down along with the rest of society to control the spread of Covid-19. The plan was that once it was suppressed we would all go back to the office. It doesn’t look like that anymore.

Many companies are starting to plan a permanent shift to home working, and lots of staff are saying they prefer it. The power of the internet means that you don’t need to gather people in the same building for them to communicate, collaborate and cooperate. What percentage of the workforce this will finally cover remains to be seen. But there can be little question that it will be a lot: at least 20% to 30% of workers will be working from home for part of the week.

The working relationship has changed

That creates a problem. Our labour laws assume that home workers are the same as office staff, except they happen to be in a different place. Politicians and regulators are insisting that, apart from a change of desk, everything should remain the same. And so Germany has already unveiled plans for new laws to protect them. Spain has already done so, and there is more in the pipeline. Ireland and Greece are planning their own regulations. It won’t be long before the trade unions and the Labour Party demand the same for the UK.

These laws are all aimed at making sure that home workers have exactly the same rights as they did when they were in the office. Where there are changes, they are aimed at protecting them even more – with limits on hours, for example, or a right to payments for heating and equipment.

It is always easy for politicians to extend more rights to workers. That is where the votes are. But the reality is home workers shouldn’t simply be treated in the same way as office or factory staff. Here’s why.


First, it isn’t the same relationship. Firms might try Zoom quizzes and virtual team meetings, but the bond between a company and employee is a lot weaker once people start working from home. Employers have no real idea what their staff are up to all day, and can only measure their performance by raw output. If they are taking time off, no one knows. Bosses probably don’t care so long as the work gets done. But it is crazy to expect a company to offer a range of rights to someone they have no real control over.




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[xxxxxy] 11/10/2020 19:52

Honestly.No Deal best.No Deal honest. So WTO.

[xxxxxy] 11/10/2020 19:51

Sydney Ashurst , Sunday, October 11, 2020, 08:33:The withdrawal agreement and ensuing negotiations have turned out to be 'a pig in a poke'. If Boris Johnson buys it his Premiership will be short-lived.That Canada a member of the Commonwealth can get a better trade deal than the UK, its leader is unspeakable.Johnson keeps referring to Winston Churchill, but, unfortunately for him he is turning out to be NO STATESMAN.Coronavirus is proving a testing time for all Governments, get rid of the EU problem by just leaving on WTO. Trade and further negotiations on better terms will follow.

[diku] 11/10/2020 19:39

Did Trump really have the Covid19?...or was it all a side show distraction?...divert all media attention away from the 1st debate debacle and from Biden...

[jl5006] 11/10/2020 18:21

Jo soap
are u age 82
Phps between 65 & 85
If not - there are no stats 4u.
Just the daily data of identified infections - threats to life or deaths ????????????

[scruff1] 11/10/2020 17:18

Sept 2007 "Today I will give you this cast iron guarantee - If I become PM a Conservative government will hold a referendum on Lisbon".D. Cameron. He did, it didn't, nobody remembered his promise - at least apart from me.

[xxxxxy] 11/10/2020 16:24

Sir Patrick VaccinePosted October 11, 2020 at 5:13 am | PermalinkForward to your MP – it can only help – From today's Mail online'STOP locking-down to control Covid': Britain's WHO envoy pleads with world leaders to stop using lockdowns as their 'primary' means of tackling virus because it is 'doubling' global povertyDr Davie Nabarro blasted lockdowns as 'primary means of controlling Covid-19'WHO envoy said world poverty would 'double' by 2021 as a result of lockdownsHis calls echo growing concerns of scientists who oppose lockdown measuresReply?Sir Joe SoapPosted October 11, 2020 at 7:40 am | PermalinkIt is looking as though hospitals and care homes are the main breeding grounds for viral transmission. It would be informative to have the statistic of:Deaths supposedly from Covid who had visited a hospital or care home in the month BEFORE symptoms or first testing positive versus those who hadn'tWe might then safely be able to say that avoiding these two places will statistically mean no chance of dying from Covid. Rather like MRSA.

[mr.elbee] 11/10/2020 15:46

It is all over for Boris and co. all that is happening now is desperate back covering...this guy is on the corona virus group in the German parliament..he is SUING world wide governments...Listen to his track record at the beginning of the video.VW/Deutsche Bank..he is wiping them out..

this is a Crime against Humanity...and he is bringing it on!!..and if you want the truth about the PCR tests that have zero truth behind them?



This guy is the real deal..next year this time it will all be over and we will be back to normal.

[utrickytrees] 11/10/2020 14:31

G2, Shipmans Brexit book was a good read I must say. Who's told ministers to forge closer links with Biden....the civil servants at whitehall?

[xxxxxy] 11/10/2020 14:24

"THE EU DEAL UNMASKED: Twelve Reasons Why the UK Will Fail to Get a Canada-Style Deal"Another devastating indictment of the EU's negotiating position with the UK is published?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020New think tank paper advocates repudiation of Withdrawal Treaty or no deal possibleBoris Johnson's hope of securing a Canada-style free trade deal with the EU are set to be dashed, according to a detailed analysis of the UK-EU negotiations that are supposed to be completed by Thursday this coming week (15 Oct 2020).The paper concludes that in a dozen key areas the UK is worryingly on track to strike an agreement with Brussels that falls far short of the CETA deal that the EU reached with Canada just four years ago. (Still not ratified by EU member state governments.)The major stumbling block is that the UK has already agreed a Withdrawal Agreement and an associated Northern Ireland Protocol with the EU that makes it near impossible for it now to achieve a future relationship on a par with the freedoms and normal trade terms granted in the Canadian deal.This Withdrawal Agreement and subsequent Treaty must therefore now be nullified.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYThe paper outlines the 12 reasons we may never fully take back take back controlClick to enlarge?© The Centre for Brexit Policy 2020 – click to enlargeFormer Conservative Leader Sir Iain Duncan Smith, and one of the paper's authors, commented:"A genuine Canada-style deal for the UK would be a great result. This paper goes through the fine print to demonstrate that we are on the brink of signing up to the kind of deal a colony of the EU would be ashamed of."Readers can download the full (18 page) paper here and we recommend it, as it expands on the points made in the summary above.OBSERVATIONSThis paper from the CBP is focused on the impossibility of the UK achieving a Canada-style free trade agreement with the EU. After nearly 50 years of membership of the EEC/EU this is the absolute minimum that the UK deserves from the EU.As readers know, the EU refuses to offer any such deal and the current arrangements will make the UK into a colony of the EU, subject to its ECJ rulings and many other 'slave state' conditions, for decades to come. The only reasonable conclusion to draw and action to take is to repudiate the Withdrawal Treaty on the grounds that the EU has never acted in good faith during the past four years.At Brexit Facts4EU.Org this has always been our position from the moment the first draft of the Withdrawal Agreement (WA) was published by Theresa May's Government. We slammed it then, and were the first media outlet to do so.The revision to the Northern Ireland Protocol achieved by Boris Johnson late last year was nowhere near enough to make the WA acceptable to any country professing to want to "take back control" and to be free, sovereign, and independent. In September 2019 we published a warning one-pager for Boris Johnson. On 18 October 2019, the day after publication of his amended WA, we published a simple 10-point one-pager, entitled "Forget politics, is Boris's new EU treaty Brexit? No, it's not."Since the appointment of Lord Frost as the UK's Chief Negotiator we have welcomed the robustness of the UK Government's approach to Brussels. Now is the time to repudiate the abomination that is the Withdrawal Treaty.The EU will clearly not accept that the UK voted to leave the EU in order to become and independent country.So be it.We continue to lobby for the following:-Repudiate the Withdrawal Treaty (including the Northern Ireland Protocol) on the grounds that the EU has acted in bad faith during the entirety of the negotiations, andStand firm and refuse to compromise on any trade deal involving a watering down of the UK's sovereignty and independence of action, andStart communicating effectively to the British public and to the rest of the worldTo all MPs who read our work, as the most prolific researcher and publisher of Brexit facts in the world we stand ready to assist in any way for the achievement of the above objectives.

[aceuk] 11/10/2020 14:09

Minerve that is not Orange Man but Yellow Fellow