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[buywell3] 13/6/2020 02:18

============================== SARS-COV-2 ==================================


The problem is the virus itself , a very unusual lab created virus that never should have evolved but was man made.

Now this virus has escaped from where it was created it has mutated already many times and continues to do so; recent example today :

One mutation in particular is at present giving cause for alarm , the mutation, known as D614G identified in Febuary this mutation can change the biological function of the virus as the number of functional intact spikes on each viral particle was about 5 X higher in this mutation. In a test lab, the virus spikes with this mutation D614G were 10 times more infectious in a test cell culture system than those without that same mutation;

june 12th 2020

Mutation Allows Coronavirus to Infect More Cells, Study Finds ...
The New York Times-5 hours ago
the mutation, known as D614G, stabilized the virus's spike proteins, which protrude from the viral surface and give the coronavirus its name

so:


What mutation or type of mutated Covid-19 are companies using to test against ?


This is also a problem for would be vaccine manufacturers :
The genetic stability of a virus matters ie mutations are a problem.
Some viruses like influenza, mutate so quickly that vaccine manufacturers must release new formulations each year. For example the rapid mutational evolution of HIV is a major reason we have no vaccine for the disease.

It is not a given that a vaccine will be found that gives more than just a temporary immunity like with yearly flu jabs.



Thus SARS-COV-2 is very likely to just keep mutating and be with us like several other types of Coronavirus are already see :

Other coronaviruses humans regularly catch


If the spike protein mutates too much then current thinking in the medical fraternity is that antibodies produced by a vaccine now being trialed will effectively be out of date by production time , as it might not bind the virus effectively enough to prevent infection.


Herd Immunity is natures way of keeping humans and other species alive from viral infections.

Sweden for example has gone for this from the get go. No lockdowns , just let Covid-19 work its way through the population and except that some folks will die.

Finland also has said it does not intend to lockdown again but go for Herd Immunity.

This is also what Mexico and Brazil are effectively doing , and to some extent all countries that have released lockdowns and probably can't now afford to repeat them because the economic price is bankruptcy of a country and social unrest/riots.




IMO dyor

The latest USA news re Covid-19 follows



The latest India news is bad



The latest South Americas news is worse

[buywell3] 13/6/2020 02:12

If you remember boris wanted Herd Immunity for his flock in the early days



The government's herd immunity plan is callous and dangerouswww.theguardian.com › world › mar › the-government...
Mar 15, 2020 - The government's herd immunity plan is callous and dangerous.

It would be interesting to know WHO diverted him from this course which Sweden and others have adopted .

Covid-19 is still in its infancy , the numbers are IMO set to double worldwide by end of 1st week of August IF Airlines keep flying internationally and cruise ships keep cruising.

Has to happen because Herd Immunity is the only Global answer

Lockdown has cost England dear

[jl5006] 12/6/2020 23:49

just imagine with Maybot in no control.

[jl5006] 12/6/2020 23:48

Critical data

[milliecusto] 12/6/2020 23:45

CDC warns U.S. may reimplement coronavirus rules if cases go up 'dramatically' https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/12/cdc-may-reimplement-strict-coronavirus-rules-if-cases-go-up-dramatically.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboardLockdown part 2 coming

[utrickytrees] 12/6/2020 22:07

5XY that's a cost per life of £20trillion. Bit minty that considering the beneficiaries are in their 80's.

[xxxxxy] 12/6/2020 21:58

Jerry Markham12 Jun 2020 8:37PMThere can be little doubt that Prof Ferguson has, by his deeply flawed modelling, done more damage to this Country than any foe from our past.When will his background and motivation be investigated?I say this, as for someone so intelligent, he has a frankly appalling track record from his various predictions.To be so unlucky, to have got all the major calls he has made so spectacularly wrong, must be heartbreaking for the poor chap. And astonishingly expensive for this Country.Fred Bloggs12 Jun 2020 8:48PM@Jerry Markham I do think we need a thorough investigation into Ferguson and who he is involved with for exactly the reasons you give.  He keeps getting his figures wrong.

[xxxxxy] 12/6/2020 21:52

Able Archer12 Jun 2020 9:30PM@Henrietta CruickshankBye bye hospitality sector, cheerio tourism, but at least those don't employ anyone, do they?You lockdown loonies are insane. 

[xxxxxy] 12/6/2020 21:50

Harry Flashman12 Jun 2020 9:20PMRemind me of the benefits of lockdown again:UK - lockdown - 611 deaths per million - economy trashed, Treasury empty, debt quadrupledSweden - no lockdown - 481 deaths per million, none of the above

[xxxxxy] 12/6/2020 21:48

Gee Whizz12 Jun 2020 9:37PMIf they hadn't locked down the public, fed by the media would have whined and whinged, the opposition would have pointed fingers etc etc, the real discussion should be why were governments around the world willing to take such draconian measures on the flimsiest of evidence? This was not a pandemic, flu in a bad year takes out at least 26000 and nobody bats an eyelid...... Germany population 80 million , alleged corona deaths nearly 9000, why is the UK over 40,000 (an island nation) ? Because the counting of death stats is so flawed, why? I suspect smoke and mirrors despite what the WHO clown above has to say....The world economy was teetering before this.... bailouts and stimulus packages would never have been granted in normal times...the plot just thickens.....

[utrickytrees] 12/6/2020 20:17

Well said jl5

[jl5006] 12/6/2020 19:29

The woke Prem Lg will attract no viewers.
Snowflakes dont play footie - or anything else.

[jl5006] 12/6/2020 19:24

Tricky
Prem lg OOO -
Sterling the protagonist in this -
Allowed
SOD footee
Empty stadia - manage that Sterling.

[jl5006] 12/6/2020 19:20

The real problem is that should BJ break with science - which he HAS BEEN FORCED to follow he is at risk.
The sad outcome of all of this is there are now 5 million MSNs walking around doing unexpected things - walking down the middle of teh road - crossing the road to avoid someone twenty yards away.
But unless this madness is managed this is the endof many peoples lives.
They do not understand the terrifying letters and the BBC broadcasts.
The Media has driven people with simple minds into the borderline madness situ.
Whose fault is - only BJ
I beg to differ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[utrickytrees] 12/6/2020 19:18

Ffs, not content with rainbow laces the prem league are jumping on the BLM bandwagon.....pathetic!

[jl5006] 12/6/2020 19:08

7191
Exactly
What are ppl such as ferguson the buffoon of what if without a module of worth - still trying to say. The article in the Tele G yesterday indicated that ppl die and died earlier than now.
So if the real effect was a lot less than disclosed - can we sue PHE DfH NHS for absolute corrupt practice in allowing MOs to insert with C 19 on the DC?
I assure you it has been common practice to put the addon - aged 96 died with pneumonia - why - the 89 yr old died - with cancer - having had a minor breast tumor identified.
Hippocratic oath ? Is this under Q?

[grahamite2] 12/6/2020 19:00

Following the science - yeah right. Just as they followed the science with the enormously destructive measures to fight global warming. Oh, I do beg your pardon, the global warming crisis.