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[geckotheglorious] 12/6/2020 11:26

Civil unrest has been inevitable for a few years now.

The attempts by the establishment to overturn a democratic vote to Leave the EU.

The economic hardship due to cratering economy arising from Covid-19...

But when the real hardship comes, there will be civil disorder across Europe, the World....

The govt needs to get the Army on the streets, live rounds. One warning shot over head to cease or desist.

Desecration of cenotaph and war memorials to be a Capital crime.

[geckotheglorious] 12/6/2020 11:22

Alphorn,

One of the best - yes.

" A rat with your biscuit sir?"

[excell1] 12/6/2020 11:11

Indeed Alp,we certainly have the same opinion on this subject.The government are
far to relaxed on this civil disobedience and I am naturally a Conservative voter and Boris fan. However since Boris went down with the virus he has been very ineffectual. The Home Secretary seems to be out on her own with some sort of common sense.

[dr biotech] 12/6/2020 11:10

Can trade Yuan on IG if you feel its worthwhile. Not into currencies myself.

[alphorn] 12/6/2020 11:01

excell - a snap.

Another serious side to the lack of government action and the poor management of the pandemic is how these guys are suddenly going to get smart and focussed to negotiate with Barnier or anybody else? The US will eat them for breakfast. A very sorry state which does not bode well at all; even for the Express readers.

[alphorn] 12/6/2020 10:48

There were some extreme posts last year about the likelihood (to that poster) of civil unrest because of Brexit. That has all but been forgotten and for many is the distant past in spite of no exit yet. What is happening today with civil unrest is IMO more worrying as there is the added ingredient of high unemployment and economic recession/depression as we have seen in today's numbers.
The government needs to be proactive and get on top of this before it gets out of hand. Removing all humour, boarding up statues and erasing history is not the way to do it. This is an incompetent government.

[freddie01] 12/6/2020 10:27

Thank goodness Freddie that we have the Guardian to keep us fully informed of how bad things are. Will enjoy my toast all the more.

Always best to try and post things for our friends on the dark side in the interest of balance. :)

[financeguru] 12/6/2020 10:18

for once I agree with miniman (omg)

BLM so do white lives, and white lives matter more!

[smartypants] 12/6/2020 10:15

More...?

The only workable way to control our food imports post-Brexit will be to NOT control them!


The move represents a sharp U-turn from February when Mr Gove announced that goods coming from the EU would face the full range of checks.

The shift comes after the pharmaceutical industry warned the government that the Covid-19 pandemic would prevent them from rebuilding the six-week medicine stockpile of 2019, raising fears in Whitehall of medicine shortages in the event of no-deal.

Under the expected plans, agricultural goods will not be required to enter Border Inspection Posts (BIPs) in or near the port — as they do in Europe — and animal products may not immediately require health certificates.
Only controlled goods will face immediate checks.

Industrial goods are also expected to be able to take advantage of transitional measures to delay the need for customs declarations and postpone customs duty payments.

The Treasury has already agreed that VAT payments can be deferred until the quarter after goods are landed. Checks on safety and security declarations will also be temporarily waived.

The UK in turn hopes that the EU side will reciprocate by reintroducing the no-deal measures the European Commission had previously tabled on areas from aviation to trucking permits, but which have since lapsed.

However trade experts have warned that it was unlikely that the EU — which has already invested heavily in new port infrastructure and personnel in Calais and Rotterdam — would reciprocate fully.

The most we can hope for the EU is what they agreed last time, in terms of no-deal mitigations, but I wouldn’t expect them to waive animal health and plant product checks, for example.

The lighter-touch border controls at ports like Dover will apply whether or not Britain secures a free trade agreement with the EU, but will not eliminate the possibility of disruption on the other side of the English Channel.

The change of tack will be welcomed by logistics and trade groups who have complained vociferously in recent months about the lack of information to enable them to prepare for new border controls.

It has been clear for months now that the only way to avoid traffic chaos is for the UK NOT to impose import controls on food goods entering the UK from the EU.

But it is a damning indictment of the UK’s strategic planning that the only workable way to control our food imports post-Brexit will be to not control them.

The UK taking a more relaxed approach to checks only works one way.

All the issues surrounding customs agents and preparing British business for export still stand.

Despite Mr Gove’s February promise to impose full checks, there were no visible preparations, such as the recruitment of vets and customs officers or the building of any new inspection facilities to handle the 10,000 trucks a day that cross the English Channel.

It has been estimated that British businesses will be required to make some 200m more customs declarations after Brexit, requiring as many as 50,000 new customs agents to handle the extra paperwork.

However, despite £34m in government grants to subsidise training, less than 4,000 people have been trained in the past 18 months by the UK’s three main providers.

[maxk] 12/6/2020 10:13

Politics latest news: Minister warns over 'airbrushing history' as UKTV removes Fawlty Towers episode





A Government minister has warned against "airbrushing" history after an episode of Fawlty Towers was removed from UKTV archives in the wake of ongoing Black Lives Matter protests.

Edward Argar, the Health Minister, told Sky News that it was "absolutely right" to have an open debate about the past "warts and all", but stressed we had to be "very careful about airbrushing that history".

"If you as a country you forget your past and history, and aren't willing to examine it, you suffer the consequences and you forget," he said.

UKTV, which is BBC-owned, said last night that it had temporarily made Fawlty Towers episode The Germans unavailable while it carries out a review.

The episode, first aired in 1975, showed hotel owner Basil Fawlty, played by John Cleese, goose-stepping while shouting "don't mention the war" in front of...

[smartypants] 12/6/2020 10:13

Taking back control of “our” boarders...?

UK in U-turn over full border checks

The British government has abandoned its plan to introduce full border checks with the EU on January 1 as ministers come under mounting pressure from business not to compound the chaos caused by coronavirus.

In a significant policy U-turn, Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, has accepted that businesses cannot be expected to cope with Covid-19 and simultaneously face the prospect of disruption at the border at the end of the post-Brexit transition period.

Instead of full checks, the government will now introduce a temporary light-touch regime at UK ports like Dover for incoming EU goods, under both a deal and “no-deal”; scenario.

However, officials concede that goods flowing to the EU from the UK are likely to face full checks as they enter France.

What...there are two sides to a “boarder”;..ours and theirs..oh... never thought of that!

[alphorn] 12/6/2020 10:09

GtG - yes, one of the best. ;)

[geckotheglorious] 12/6/2020 10:03

Don't see the issue with the faulty towers episode...

[bbalanjones] 12/6/2020 10:02

5xy You do post some real rubbish from others of like mind.

[geckotheglorious] 12/6/2020 10:02

Black lives Matter is a sham
#Hodgetwins reveal the lie. BLM is a Cultural Marxist organisation is all..little to do with Black lives Matter.

[xxxxxy] 12/6/2020 10:02

End Lockdown.

[xxxxxy] 12/6/2020 10:02

We are sleepwalking from one denial of our liberties into an even more insidious phaseThe ramifications of this seizure of our freedoms are profoundly disturbingJANET DALEY30 May 2020 • 1:00pm?When you think about it, there is something very odd about the farrago of the last week. Endless numbers of MPs, many of them Conservative, and a similarly vast array of media outlets received outraged demands for the sacking of the prime minister's adviser because he allegedly transgressed the rules which have damaged the quality of life of ordinary people. Those who complained said that the deprivations and sacrifices which they have endured at such cost to their personal happiness and welfare were mocked by Dominic Cummings' actions.But wait a minute - I thought that the great majority of people were not bothered much at all by the lockdown restrictions? According to almost every opinion poll that has been published over this extraordinary period, a clear message has gone out from the country: No, we're really not fussed about having to stay under house arrest, locked away from our beloved families and closest friends. It's pretty nice, actually - an extended break from the pressures of work and social demands.ADVERTISINGPromote health. Save lives. Serve the vulnerable. Visit who.intSo we are quite content to sign away our rights as freeborn Englishmen and women to move about and associate with whomever we wish (even the right to a family life which we grant unreservedly to asylum seekers) for the indefinite future. We're not even particularly worried about how much education our children are losing - certainly not missing the early morning school run, ha ha. Give us a shout when it's over but we personally will be sad to see it end.That's been, overall, the resounding sentiment, hasn't it? So which is it? Are most people quite unbothered about the unprecedented restrictions to which they have been subjected (in which case, the possible infringement of those restrictions would be of little interest) or not? Of course, the obvious answer is that these are not the same groups of people: the ones who tell the opinion pollsters that, as far as they are concerned, this can go on forever are living quite different sorts of lives from those who are aggrieved by how much they have had to give up.But is this necessarily true? Many of the former lot could be public sector employees who are currently enjoying a holiday on full pay but whose political orientation is likely to incline them to attack the Tory government at every opportunity. So they could easily have it both ways: saying, quite honestly, that they are having a lovely time under the present dispensation, but still joining in the media chorus of condemnation of the government when it suits them.Full articlehtTps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/30/sleepwalking-one-denial-liberties-even-insidious-phase/

[xxxxxy] 12/6/2020 10:00

BREXIT. It must be sovereign independent Brexit. And Made and Produce of the UK First.Not Made in China.Not Made in the EUSSR.Let the lessons be noted. Never again.UK must look after self. First. Not be dependent or controlled by others and their Elites. Sure be friends with others. Travel to others. But NEVER again be controlled and ordered and told what to do by others.Freedom and Democracy and Independence.So.NO DEAL

[minerve 2] 12/6/2020 10:00

Alphorn

Yes, it is getting out of hand. No democracy, just masses of virtue signalling by craven idiots who haven't go the courage to stand up for balance.

[geckotheglorious] 12/6/2020 09:59

Nixon, of course , was forced to resign over Watergate.

I'd listen to Diku over Goldfinger any day of the week frankly.