Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[grahamite2] 26/5/2020 08:52

bargainbob, I searched Gordon Brown and Dunblane as you suggested and found a number of dodgy looking websites all using identical wording. Needless to say I did not click on any of those sites. Gordon Brown is no friend of mine, in fact I hate him, but what you have come up with is a ludicrous and shameful slur.

[chavitravi2] 26/5/2020 08:51

Nice recovery this morning, can we go on from here tho?

[pierre oreilly] 26/5/2020 08:50

I don't think it is a small matter, I think the future of the pm and the future of the tory party is at stake. My view is that those who think it's a small matter are giving those who want Boris out a free ride. Everyday this goes on, imv, boris gets nearer to being booted out, and i want him to stay. I also want him to converse with cummings after he's gone.

[pooroldboy55] 26/5/2020 08:46

Well just perhaps most dont agree with you PO as you are coming over all superior.

[maxk] 26/5/2020 08:44

But you Pierre are doing the same thing.

Making a big issue out of a small matter.

[pierre oreilly] 26/5/2020 08:35

I just don't understand - what has kinnock, an mp's funeral or anything else got to do with this? Why do you get lots of ticks for bringing up irrelevant factors which just cloud the issue.?

The public wanted boris as pm because they are sick to death of 'political answers'. Cummings is trying to get rid of 'political answers' at the highest level, that's why he's very popular with some and hated by the left.

[ekuuleus] 26/5/2020 08:31

so m4r, full pay for part time work.

not that the 14 weeks of holiday a year was not enough

[mitchy] 26/5/2020 08:30

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cyclical-stocks-are-staging-comeback-11590399001?mod=flipboardBanks and energy companies leading the way to recovery.

[joe say] 26/5/2020 08:25

Where was the outrage with Kinnock, the funeral attending MP, the welsh picnicker, the SNP adviser etc etc ?

Clearly politically motivated - so a political defense is valid

Viva Boris, viva Brexit

[pierre oreilly] 26/5/2020 08:23

Graham, I think others find it hard to reconcile that i think cummings is a great bloke, and done some great things for the uk recently, and yet i want him out.

If he'd have acknowledged that he'd done something against the spirit of the rules which most were adhering to, and the various pressures at the time led him to do that altough he knew he was likely to give the virus to others in a different part of the country but his human weakness made him do it, and acknowledge it was wrong, and request the public allow him to continue to do great things for the uk in spite of his failings here, I would have wanted him to stay.

But trying to weasel out with an untenable story just shows he's become more or less what he's trying to eradicate from senior positions. And Boris too.

[redartbmud] 26/5/2020 08:17

No honesty, no integrity, no common sense, no position as CEO of the UK.
I support Brexit.
It is clear now that Johnson cannot even pass water, without Cummings telling him when and how.

[bargainbob] 26/5/2020 08:09

Cummings needs Togo.

[grahamite2] 26/5/2020 08:08

Pierre, you are not the only person I respect who takes a different view from me on this. It's not just the usual suspects calling for him to be sacked but a lot of respectable people too. Even Richard Littlejohn, who normally has an absolutely firm view on everything, is in two minds.

What swung it for Littlejohn was the thought that, if Alistair Campbell wants Cummings sacked, it must be right to keep him!

[aljm] 26/5/2020 08:08

morning people, (sorry min , you dont fit in that category) only reason they are witch hunting Cummings is that remote chance that if they get rid of him then they might stop Brexit.....

[pierre oreilly] 26/5/2020 07:55

Graham, well at least we agree on one point in this rare event where we disagree, and that is that should brown have done the same, he may have come in for some criticism(from those not criticising Cummings). Putting it mildly!.
And likewise, many like Bob severely criticising Cummings would probably be praising gordo if he did the same thing. That's just polarisation imv, and i personally don't think polarisation is healthy, although I welcome everyone to come to whatever conclusion and hold whatever views they like.

[redartbmud] 26/5/2020 07:51

BoJo is the pet monkey of Rasputin.
Time to put him back in his box permanently.
And ya know where to put the box don't ya!!

[pierre oreilly] 26/5/2020 07:49

To jl too.

[pierre oreilly] 26/5/2020 07:48

Utrick, JL, why can't you see that trying to discredit those with (reasonable) opposing views instead of addressing the points just makes you look, in reasonable people's eyes, as silly, nothing pertain to contribute, peurile and also a loser of the argument. And likewise for those who tick such posts.

[xxxxxy] 26/5/2020 07:46

Love BorisLove Cummings.HEROESAnd No Deal

[xxxxxy] 26/5/2020 07:40

Barnier also knows there will be no Brexit reversal, no second referendum. So now, having accused the UK of "cherry-picking", it is the EU trying to make Britain, a third country, shoulder obligations required only of member states.That's why our Brexit negotiations are badly stalled – a reality that barely made last week's corona-dominated news bulletins. With talks due to restart next month, there's little chance of a breakthrough ahead of the end-of-June deadline to agree any transition extension. It looks probable, actually quite likely, Britain will leave with "no deal".A zero-tariff FTA with the EU has long been my preference, and I'm hopeful it may yet happen. If it doesn't, the EU has only itself to blame – having wildly overplayed its hand. Consider Brussels' insistence on "dynamic regulatory alignment", meaning the UK must comply with EU rules on labour, environmental protection and state aid, contrary to standard FTA practice.Yes, some FTAs have "non-regression clauses", so neither country can dilute existing standards. But that's way short of being forced to align with future changes in EU law.Barnier's "level playing field" amounts, in fact, to a ridiculously one-sided form of regulatory subjugation, with disputes resolved by the notoriously political, pro-EU European Court of Justice. And what of keeping Britain in the Common Fisheries Policy (CFP), with automatic EU access to UK waters on unchanged quotas?This is out of the question, not only because the CFP encourages disastrous overfishing. The British fleet is currently granted just 30pc of the quota across UK fishing grounds.There's no precedent for what the EU is proposing – making a trade deal with a third country contingent on access to natural resources. This would be less an FTA between sovereign nations than akin to a colonial relationship, which one side imposes on its weaker neighbour. For the EU to try this with a small nation would be morally indefensible. To do so with the UK, the world-ranking economy and Europe's military powerhouse, is beyond the pale.Trading with the EU with no FTA, under World Trade Organisation rules, is no disaster. WTO tariffs are generally low and falling. The UK trades under such arrangements with the US, our single biggest country trading partner. Most trade in the world, between all nations, is under WTO rules.Britain's non-EU trade, largely under WTO arrangements, has grown fast in recent years, already forms the majority of our trade and generates a large surplus. Our EU trade share has been shrinking fast – despite the "single market", under which many of our service exports are anyway blocked – and has long been in deficit.Liz Truss, the Trade Secretary, last week unveiled the UK's WTO tariff schedules, which will apply to all nations with whom we trade post-Brexit with no FTA. They are simple and transparent, with many lower than now or cut to zero.Daily Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 26/5/2020 07:35

Sky News = LYNCH MOB

[xxxxxy] 26/5/2020 07:34

Big business and governmentBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: MAY 26, 2020The government should not want to bail out big business or take share stakes in large companies. It should be helping and encouraging them to get more money from customers so they do not need bail outs. The policy is meant to be getting many more people back to work, preferably working from home. Taxpayers do not want shares in companies that are losing so much money they cannot finance themselves commercially from banks and the markets.It is rumoured that Jaguar Land Rover might need government money. Yet this is a company with good products, that needs to sell more  cars to generate the cash it needs. The government should be asking any car business that thinks it might want taxpayer aid the following questions:Will its dealerships soon be open to sell cars observing social distancing assuming that gets the go ahead?Meanwhile is the  sales force available during normal business hours to sell on line and through email and Zoom/Teams meetings with customers?Have they  tried contacting their customer and customer enquiry lists to see if people will buy a new vehicle? Are they offering any special promotions to get the market moving again? Given the reported growing interest in people buying cheaper second hand cars as an alternative to public transport to get to work, isn't this a good time to encourage switching to a newer vehicle for people who are already owners?The Bank of England and the commercial  banks are making plenty of money available to those who need a car loan to buy or upgrade  a vehicle.The Treasury were right to offer short term generous assistance for the lock down period. Now we need to move on and find ways to get people back to work safely and wean companies off government life support.

[utrickytrees] 26/5/2020 07:07

The effects of Cummings overhauling Whitehall will already be felt by the media, bereft of leaks they are turning to lies and supposition to cobble together column inches its embarrassing. Perhaps Cummings has embargoed all media, the telegraph, mail have both been fuelling the anti Cummings sentiment. He could be DECONSTRUCTING THE MEDIA.

Bargain Bob, normally just a minor irritation has become extremely animated over the whole Cummings debacle. Could it be the SNP are next for a bit of Cummings dismantling. I certainly hope so there wouldn't be a more popular man on the planet!

Has PO had his phone hacked?