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[careful] 20/8/2019 13:20

k38
Maggie was right.
But how she would have loved to get a chance to vote for Mays deal.
About 4/5 years ago the EU. sceptics would have loved to sign up for Mays deal in total.

Mays deal is a great deal, I cannot believe it will fail because of some posturing about the damned Irish border.

Boris or someone else will have to find a way of pushing it through, or Brexit could be lost forever.

[k38] 20/8/2019 13:17

In her Bruges Speech, the go to speech for Eurosceptics, like ourselves, Thatcher laid out how "Europe will be stronger because it has France as France, Spain as Spain and Britain as Britain – each with its own customs, traditions and identity." However, that isn't the case now and the EU wish to create a single identity with a single currency and a central bank, essentially basing their model on the United States of America.

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 13:16

How DARE Boris have the AUDACITY to suggest that the backstop risks undermining the Norther Irish peace process.

It is there PRECISELY TO PROTECT IT.

Being held to ransom by the vile ERG bunch within his own party who will only be content with the hardest of Brexits, and don't give a monkeys if that means a border in Ireland and a return to the 'Troubles'.

Disgraceful..

[k38] 20/8/2019 13:13

One of Maggie's most remembered speech is of course her Bruges Speech in 1988 where she made clear the EEC planned on political union rather than an economic community. The Iron Lady spoke of how "we have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state here in Britain, only to be reimposed at European level with a European superstructure exercising a new dominance from Brussels." However, it seems that those frontiers of the state are being reimposed on a grand scale in the EU, only this time it is Mr Juncker instead of Mr Delors. Thatcher knew fine well that the EEC was heading towards a political union, especially with Delors as the appointed Commissioner, the superstructure that she spoke about is more evident now more than ever with plans for a EU central defence policy and further integration proposed by Emmanuel Macron and plans already put into motion by Chancellor Merkel. The EU is becoming more and more centralised and as Thatcher emphasised with the point of European nations spending years battling the Soviet Union with its centralised bureaucracy only to move power closer to Brussels following 1992.

[k38] 20/8/2019 13:08

One of Maggie's most remembered speech is of course her Bruges Speech in 1988 where she made clear the EEC planned on political union rather than an economic community. The Iron Lady spoke of how "we have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state here in Britain, only to be reimposed at European level with a European superstructure exercising a new dominance from Brussels." However, it seems that those frontiers of the state are being reimposed on a grand scale in the EU, only this time it is Mr Juncker instead of Mr Delors. Thatcher knew fine well that the EEC was heading towards a political union, especially with Delors as the appointed Commissioner, the superstructure that she spoke about is more evident now more than ever with plans for a EU central defence policy and further integration proposed by Emmanuel Macron and plans already put into motion by Chancellor Merkel. The EU is becoming more and more centralised and as Thatcher emphasised with the point of European nations spending years battling the Soviet Union with its centralised bureaucracy only to move power closer to Brussels following 1992.

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 13:06

123Trev

Your question is not looking for my opinion, you are attempting to catch me out.

Nice try. :)

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 12:57

And Trev, whilst you are at it, just post as Jacko07. We know it's you!

LOL

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 12:56

I gave you my answer but perhaps this one is better:

The EU wouldn't put the Queen's head on the €.

LOL

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 12:52

Sorry, were the EU asking for us to drop the £?

[123trev] 20/8/2019 12:50

Minerve, why did we not adopt the Euro as our currency is the question asked?

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 12:43

123Trev

Just to let you know the € was on it’s way to becoming a currency that would compete with the $. China was a large buyer, filling up it’s foreign reserves in preference to the $. The US went out of its way to attempt to kill the €’s strength via timely notes from rating agencies and it’s agents like the IMF. The £ was not in this battle.

That should tell you all you need to know about the £ VS €.

And before you band on about sovereign monetary policy the US seem to cope with it and yet it has just as much disparate economies as Europe.

[careful] 20/8/2019 12:31

Boris got to power by boasting that he could get a better deal, where May failed.

It did not take him long to fail.

[maxk] 20/8/2019 12:27

I think Smarty has beaten us all in the lobotomy stakes. He really thinks the withdrawal agreement is a trade agreement only.

[careful] 20/8/2019 12:25

Farage and his party are making it clear that it is not only the backstop that is wrong with the WA.
Only a no deal will be acceptable to them.

Boris is now in an impossible position.
He is clinging to the notion that he must deliver Brexit.
Otherwise the tories will perish.

I think he is wrong, if he could call the whole damn thing off, or promise a second referendum, he would romp home in an election.

Things have moved on, people will understand that the simple choices of the first referendum were a myth.

Put the country, tory party before any promises made to Trump.

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 12:21

This thread is the digital equivalent of a frontal lobotomy.

[mr.elbee] 20/8/2019 12:17

why on earth do you indulge the cretin? Are you as sick as he is? Just use the filter or F off!