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[xxxxxy] 24/6/2019 14:08

Boris is not about being nice and a cop-out like May.

Boris has to show his mettle of securing BREXIT.


Boris has to be intelligent and resilient and solid.

Boris has to be the very opposite of May

Boris for PM

BORIS BORIS BORIS

LEAVE and WTO

[crossing_the_rubicon] 24/6/2019 14:07

Oh dear oh dear.
Not looking good in Euroland.

All is not well at project EU's Central bank

"Draghi 'Out'ed By ECB Insiders As Liar And Schemer"

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 14:06

We love Janet barker. Keep the good work up Janet. Don’t let the bully boys intimidate you!

[crossing_the_rubicon] 24/6/2019 14:05

It's going to be a miserable Christmas in the Codswallop household.

"Banks Suing Cadwalladr Over Russian Money Claims"


Hope he takes the lying tart to the cleaners.

[alphorn] 24/6/2019 14:03

The global markets have CtR on filter as GBP remains under pressure.

[ladeside] 24/6/2019 14:02

I'm no fan of Boris, however this is just bloody ridiculous !!!

[crossing_the_rubicon] 24/6/2019 14:01

You know that Eco Warrior manhandled out of Mansion house dinner.

Want to know why she isnt pressing charges?


James Gray‏ @ukreloaded 2d2 days ago
Janet Barker has already been arrested this year for public disorder so if she suddenly faced civil action to have her prosecuted for trespassing - then she'd probably end up doing time Thus the reason innocent little #JanetBarker doesn't want to press charges #MarkFieldAssault



If I were Fields I'd press for her prosecution for trespass. Troublemakers such as her need to be in jail.

[alphorn] 24/6/2019 14:01

"It's been three long years since we voted to Leave"

BoJo was in the cabinet for much of that time - shows his techniques of persuasion need some improvement. What happens when he ventures out into the real world?


I see that CtR is morphing into x5. It makes you want a No Deal just to get rid of those guys.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 24/6/2019 13:57

Project Fear
LIE 8:-"We have to be in the Single market to survive economically"

Five years ago, the Dutch Freedom Party PVV commissioned the independent research company Capital Economics to assess the economic impact if the Netherlands should leave the EU (NExit). The findings were very clear. Regardless of the outcome of any Netherlands-EU trade negotiations, in every scenario, Dutch gross domestic product was shown to be between 10 and 13 per cent higher by 2035 than it would be if the Netherlands continue as a member state of the EU. Leaving the EU allows a country to reduce the cost of doing business by reducing burdensome regulations in areas currently under the jurisdiction of Brussels. It also improves public finances by opting out of costly EU spending programmes. It reduces public expenditure through revising immigration policy

[crossing_the_rubicon] 24/6/2019 13:55

Project Fear
LIE 6:- "The City will collapse"

Financial services will enjoy a Brexit boom if the regulators let us take advantage of the opportunities it presents

[crossing_the_rubicon] 24/6/2019 13:54

How so that planes will still fly, medicine will still come to the UK????



"The EU confirms it is ready for UK exit in October without the Withdrawal treaty"

In the run up to our exit planned for 29 March 2019 the EU passed a number of measures to ensure continuity if the UK left without signing the Withdrawal Treaty.

Measures included an aviation agreement to ensure the planes fly, a haulage agreement to allow road transport to continue, a rail agreement, “legal certainty for ship operators”, compensation for EU fishing businesses if they lose access to UK waters, continuity for students currently in the Erasmus programme, and more time for the Peace and Interreg programmes for Ireland and Northern Ireland.

In the update produced for the recent EU Council they also noted that rights of UK citizens currently legally settled in the rest of the EU will be protected. They are ensuring medicines and Reach approved chemicals can continue to be traded, and have increased customs capacity at UK facing ports and transport centres to handle any need to introduce tariffs.

This of course all goes largely unreported by the Remain facing UK media, who carry on with silly scare stories based on an imaginary exit with none of these agreements in place.

[bbalanjones] 24/6/2019 13:52

Minerve 224 Jun '19 - 11:49 - 262482 of 262496

For some, (like myself) I am content to plough Divis back into family needs for whatever time is available. No longer any real point in investing in these atm for growth. However the Dividend income, especially moving onto quarterly basis so soon is a handy development.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 24/6/2019 13:52

Project Fear
LIE 4 & 5:-"No medicines in event of a No Deal Brexit. No planes flying, yadda yadda"

Victoria Hewson: No, medicines won't run out if we leave the EU without a deal
As Conservative leadership candidates debate - or disavow - leaving the EU with no deal, the fears of shortages and disruptions that have circulated since the referendum in 2016 are back in the spotlight once more. People are rightly concerned about the availability of medicines, given that we import billions of pounds worth of pharmaceuticals - mostly from the EU - and timely supply is vital. With the extended exit date of 31 October coming just ahead of winter, some have cited the disruption to the supply of flu vaccines as a risk with huge potential knock on effects. Common fears around medical provisions can be broken down into three main areas: tariffs, regulations and logistics

[crossing_the_rubicon] 24/6/2019 13:51

Project Fear
LIE 3 - "Imposition of tariffs if we No Deal Brexit"

"The facts about GATT Article 24 – and how it can deliver a Clean Managed Brexit by 31st October"

The EU would never agree to it!’,
‘The EU would not be minded to do a deal if we leave on bad terms!’,
‘You can’t do it in a no-deal situation’ and
‘We’d have to levy tariffs not just on EU goods but all good from around the world’.

But these claims are wrong. We know they are wrong because collectively we have asked the EU: its Chief Negotiator Michel Barnier, its trade advisers and personnel, and people David has worked with for ten years on the International Trade Committee of the European Parliament doing trade deals.

And together we’ve asked very senior people at the WTO and top trade lawyers too, such as the impartial Article 24 expert Lorand Bartels of Cambridge University.

Their conclusion: GATT Article 24 is not only doable, it is desirable. Here are a few facts relating to Article 24:

So if the UK and EU go to the WTO jointly and say that we have agreed to move to a full and comprehensive Free Trade Agreement (what we term ‘SuperCanada’ – that is better than the EU-Canada FTA) – that keeps tariffs at zero with no real change to other members, the WTO is happy to allow us a period of time to keep tariffs and quotas at preferential rates.

GATT 24 allows what are called ‘standstill’ arrangements – much remains the same and this is essentially a WTO form of a transition – but is not an interim arrangement as is often claimed.

So why would the EU agree?

Well, the UK is the fifth largest economy in the world and the EU’s largest single market – bigger than the USA, China and India. The EU has a £96 billion goods deficit with us (we have a £13bn services surplus). Over a million German jobs alone rely on British consumers buying German goods like BMWs. Without a basic GATT 24 deal, the EU would have £13bn tariffs slapped on its goods – 10% on VWs; 12% on wine, 40% on cheese. They would suffer far more than the UK simply because they sell more to us than we do to them.

The EU – particularly Germany, which accounts for nearly a quarter of all EU trade to the UK – does not like the idea of this. Better for everyone surely to keep on an even keel?

There is also the question of money. The UK may well be prepared to pay a fair contribution, if not anywhere near the £39 billion associated with the Withdrawal Agreement, but this would be contingent on such a basic deal.

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 13:50

I make a habit of not talking to Brexiters in real life.

You can tell who they are. LOL

[crossing_the_rubicon] 24/6/2019 13:49

Project Fear
LIE 2 - "Trade deals going nowhere and will take ages"

How the EU is blocking UK trade deals with the US, Australia, China and Brazil
Brussels is blocking post-Brexit trade deals offered to the UK from the US, Australia, China and South America, Tory MEP Daniel Hannan has sensationally revealed. Mr Hannan said Theresa May’s relentless and blinkered pursuit of a trade deal with the EU has shelved more than half a dozen other offers from huge nations that are quite literally queuing round the block to trade with Britain

Australia has offered us a trade deal. America has offered us a trade deal. China has offered us a trade deal. Brazil has offered us a trade deal. “Indeed every major economy in the world is offering us a trade deal except the EU. "Isn’t it time to switch partners?” 

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 13:49

Does he still rely on GATT24?

LOL

[crossing_the_rubicon] 24/6/2019 13:47

Spot on Corby....
Cultural Marxism to blame.

[careful] 24/6/2019 13:46

Boris will deliver Brexit on time if he can get May's deal through parliament.
It is the only way.
The EU. will not re negotiate, the backstop detail was flogged to death.

Moving on from that do you no deal Brexiteers have any idea have any idea how he can get a no deal through?

Or will he call a general election, falsely thinking he is a vote winner?

Theresa was delusional as well, but with her the polls showed she would win a huge victory at the time she called her snap election.
I fear Corbyn.

[grahamite2] 24/6/2019 13:41

Is that ALL he can say?

No, it isn't. There follows a long and well-argued article.

[philanderer] 24/6/2019 13:35

Lloyds cracks down on laundering by freezing 8,000 Jersey accounts

[inaminute] 24/6/2019 13:32

It's all they'll let him say. Any more and he'll put his foot in it again.