Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[shy tott] 24/6/2019 10:37

Brexit, Hard Brexit, soft Brexit, crash out, nuclear bomb Brexit …. all designed to appeal to emotion and ignore logic.


The question was 'leave or stay'


A majority voted leave. Anyone saying we should therefore stay for whatever reason under any circumstances is really a traitor to democracy.


Why is that very simple democratic concept so hard for some to understand?


The most absurd suggestion from the remainers is to have another vote …. so after disposing voting as meaningless and ignorable, they want another! It's a bit like woody alan complaining that the meat pie was disgusting and the portions were too small!

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 10:30

"A dozen or so" Conservative MPs could support a vote of no confidence to stop a no-deal Brexit, defence minister Tobias Ellwood has told the BBC.

He told Panorama that many backbenchers and ministers would rebel if the UK faced leaving the EU on the 31 October deadline without a legal agreement.




Do it, thankfully there are some Tories that aren't morons.

[patientcapital] 24/6/2019 10:29

Fair enough but a few decades is perhaps blurring the issue.Are you invested in gold and related instruments? As well as predominantly internationals I like a weighting in that sector. Picked up well since early May. GOLD (ex RRS), IGLN and SPGP currently held.

[alex1621] 24/6/2019 10:28

What's absurd is your deliberate misinterpretation of the point that I made. The point being that as no prominent leave campaigner promoted a no deal Brexit without transition arrangements, no one can claim that outcome as being the only true Brexit.

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 10:27

Shy Tott

Whether you like it or not a vote to LEAVE was NOT a vote for Hard-Brexit. If you interpret that - because you are a Hard-Brexiter - that is your problem. You shouldn't assume things. Only CHIMPS assume things like that.

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 10:24

Syria was a great move to freedom. Nothing left but death and concrete left-overs.

All these movements are brought on by populists who will promise you everything you want and in reality they deliver very little.

[shy tott] 24/6/2019 10:22

Alex, honestly mate, you seem to have fallen for the most stupid of argument designed to thwart the vote we had.

The only possible argument in a referendum is 'which alternative got the most votes'. I take it you know the answer to that. Anyone who argues that the alternative with the lesser number of votes - for whatever reason - should have their wishes actioned is …… well, imv, insane.

To argue that the result is void (or indeed not void and the minority should be actioned) due to what was not said is absurd. Most things were not said, a google of things were not said. An infinite number of things were not said.

[alex1621] 24/6/2019 10:14

Redwood, Cash, Baker ... fellow inmates?

[mr.elbee] 24/6/2019 10:12

and none of them didn't.
Most people...I repeat...did not vote for any transition deal because it was not mentioned EVER.
No, the view is the the EU with Varadkar's help have weaponised the border issue and if the effect is to resurrect the IRA then that is a price worth paying.

This is a very normal view amongst Redwood,Cash, Baker,and others who have given verbal evidence to that effect to Parliamentary Select Committees.

Don't you read any more?

As I said...a religion.

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 10:10

Ban Hard-Brexiters from future voting.

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 10:02

They are doing nothing about it Alphorn because the truth is they have their cushy little pensions and the money they have here is chump change. The ONLY difference they will see is the new headlines and the cost on a punnet of strawberries.

Put-it-this-way, if it was their job on the line and future income, they would be putting more effort into their thoughts, valuing better what needs to be valued and would stop acting like complete idiots.

[alex1621] 24/6/2019 10:01

So Vardakar has made this issue up to revive the IRA? Are you typing this from Rampton?

[alphorn] 24/6/2019 10:00

Patient - I said this century. The USSR breakup was around 30 years ago.

[alphorn] 24/6/2019 09:58

MrE - if you believe what you have just posted then what are you personally doing about it? How are you positioning yourself?
Are you a rabbit in the headlights and doing nothing different?
Rather than the endless posts of remain/exit - what are posters actually doing?
On this thread is seems nothing other than hold Lloyds for an eternity.

[alex1621] 24/6/2019 09:57

If the view was that we would just leave, with no transition arrangements in place, can you indicate which Leave politician indicated that? The truth is that none of them did ...

[patientcapital] 24/6/2019 09:57

A few former USSR countries perhaps.

[mr.elbee] 24/6/2019 09:55

Total tosh in every word Alex. Sorry.

There has been a soft electronic border for many years it could easily be extended in the event of a No deal. ..and the Good Friday agreement issue is just the work of evil men like Varadkar trying to get the IRA up and running again.

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 09:54

I think we should ban all Hard-Brexiters from voting in the future. They are damaging to all our futures.

[maxk] 24/6/2019 09:54

No one voted for May's surrender deal either.

[alex1621] 24/6/2019 09:54

Your comment on the Irish border is simply nonsense. Leaving on WTO crash out means that a border will be necessary, and that in itself is a breach of the Good Friday agreement. The main reason why Northern Ireland voted to remain.

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 09:54

Your comment is hypocritical and doesn't stand-up to scrutiny. ;)

[minerve 2] 24/6/2019 09:53

"Free = not subject to alien overlords."

If we are going to do 'free' can that include no interference from the US overlords and the right-wing overlords.

Thank you.