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[alphorn] 02/4/2019 08:59

willoicc - Using SAP is fine then. You are either a hypocrite or not very bright.

[jordaggy] 02/4/2019 07:45

WBecki, there a number of comments from last May, June, July, that you have not responded to.

Just comment in real time...we're not hanging on your every response.

The all powerful hidden hands of the establishment don't want Brexit. We will never leave...and I'm as upset as anyone.

[bbalanjones] 02/4/2019 07:35

cm44: My sincere apologies. I do not like to invoke derogatory expletives. In my frustration at JR-M and perhaps others of his stripe, I used the name of a fine Steel Town inappropriately. The answer is in the spelling sequence. Crass of me but this situation is unforgivable.

[wbecki] 02/4/2019 07:12

"Mrs Tubs1
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Just watched 2 MPs interviewed on @SkyNews supporting revoking Article 50. Not once were they questioned on the alarming anti-democratic nature of this. A truly extremist position treated as just another option.



That'd be because they arent very bright.

Overpaid and yet they're still monkeys.

[wbecki] 02/4/2019 07:07

"“When Jon Snow moaned about all the ‘white people’ at the Leave march, what he really meant was ‘bad white people’. Brexity trashy white people. In liberal elite circles, ‘white people’ is now PC code for the lower orders.”

Brendan O’Neill in @spectator




Jon "Socialist" Snow is the epitome of all that is wrong with the UK

[wbecki] 02/4/2019 07:04

"GoldpigUK
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Hi k38,

I am sorry but you are wrong, the majority in the UK did not vote to leave the EU. Of those who had a vote fewer than 50% voted to leave the EU. (I enjoyed the video you mentioned with the views of Alice Weidel and agreed with much of what she said)"


Incorrect. The majority who were eligible to vote and actually voted did vote to LEAVE. That is all that is important.

51.9% to 48.1%

Indisputable fact.

You're peddling the usual Remoan lie.

Of those that voted, more than 50% voted to LEAVE. it was 51.9%

Maths not your strong point!!!!



"Nearly three years after the referendum we now have a huge difference of opinion about what leaving the EU actually means"

No we dont. It's only in Parliament where there is this difference of opinion you'll find.

Still at least all you Remoaners know what "Remain" meant eh!!



"Labour wants us to stay customs union. Some Brexiteers say being in the EU customs union is not leaving the EU"

That'd be because it isnt leaving the EU!!!



"A majority of MP's do not support the deal proposed by the Government. Some Brexiteers say the May deal is not leaving the EU"

That's be because May;s deal isnt leavign the EU either - it is Brino


"Some MP's think that only by walking away from the EU without an agreement would we actually be leaving the EU. The vast majority of MP's (and even Theresa May) know that would be an act of economic vandalism"

Incorrect. They want to LEAVE with a CETA style deal both May/Robbins and Parliament have denied as an option. Not Tusk offered this CETA from the off(Absent NI)



"If MP's have different opinions on what Brexit actually means how can Parliament possibly know?"

MPs are parliament.



"Are MP's really supposed to act on guesswork? This issue needs to go back to the people and the sooner the better"

No MPs are meant to do as they have been instructed, not spend their time working out how to dilute and overturn the Referendum vote.

[wbecki] 02/4/2019 06:59

"k38
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Drop the backstop and we have a deal !!"

We dont want May's WA with or without the backstop as it isnt Brexit. It is aCusoms Union - Remain wtih no Say option. Otherwise known as Brino.

Unacceptable and not Brexit.

[wbecki] 02/4/2019 06:58

"GoldpigUK
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Hi

There is so much misinformation being churned out by Brexiteers.

As long as we remain in the EU we will retain our power of veto. This extends to veto on tax, veto on a European Army, veto on our budget rebate (if anyone tries to stop it) and even our veto on any attempt to remove the veto."



Incorrect
Veto over foreign policy and taxation are beign eroded,with a view to phasing them out already!!!!
Only misinformation here uis being peddled by Remoaners.



"People who don't want to see the EU turning into a United States of Europe should realise that only by being in the EU can we with any certainty prevent it from evolving into something we really don't want."



More misinformation. We dont want UK sucked into a Federal Europe but if the EU want to federalise absent us, whatever - that'd be their decision.




"Parliament is trying its best to find a solution to the Brexit impasse but is totally gridlocked. This issue needs to come back to the people for us to decide. The fact that we have a choice to stay or leave, in itself shows that it is us, not Brussels in control of our destiny. We are a sovereign democratic country and that will not change"

And yet more misinformation typical of pillow biting Remoaners.

Parliament is trying to overturn the Reffy decision by hook and crook.
We dont need another Reffy, we just need to LEAVE - only two scenarios honour the Reffy result : WTO or CETA.

The choice to STAY or GO has already been made.It just isnt being implemented.




"We need a legally binding vote to settle this and the sooner the better"

WE have already had that.

Parliament voted to delegate the Brexit decision to the British people. We voted LEAVE. Parliament then voted to enact Art 50 and take us out of the EU. We had a general Election were both main parties, securing 85% odd of the vote, said they;d respect thte vote to LEAVE.

That is legally binding.

[wbecki] 02/4/2019 06:52

"That is why I want out of the EU. No deal, no special relationship. Just trade the same as we do with the rest of the world without having to pay a huge membership fee to be in a club which puts us at a disadvantage.

The EU is doing a very good job of impoverishing the UK and the UK is full of quislings and petains who are doing their best to help them."


Willoic would be spot on.

Brexit isnt about Protectionism - that would be staying in the EU

Brexit is about liaising with the world on same terms, defined by us, not the EU as we puruse a level playing field for every nation.

[wbecki] 02/4/2019 06:47

"careful
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All indicative options fail to get a majority
But Ken Clark's customs union came very close.(3)
Confirmation referendum also closer.

Clark just spoke, what a class act he is.
This afternoons speech by him was a master class. Educational"

Clarke is a serial whinger and dimwit - given he was chancellor he should know the perils of a Customs Union


"Too many options split the vote, they should add the customs union to Mays deal and they could get it through"


You do realise May's WA is a customs union right? For Manufactured goods and Agriculture, with all its implications for social policy policy, et al????


They should simply walk, WTO (layer on bilaterals and FTAs speedily) or go for CETA.

Only these 2 options are Brexit. Pursuing neither means we sow the seeds of serious social discord going forward

[grahamite2] 02/4/2019 03:17

GoldpigUK 2 Apr '19 - 01:44 - 253477 of 253480

The fact that we have a choice to stay or leave, in itself shows that it is us, not Brussels in control of our destiny.

Except for the fact we already made that choice and it ain't happened yet.

[goldpiguk] 02/4/2019 02:50

Hi k38,

I am sorry but you are wrong, the majority in the UK did not vote to leave the EU. Of those who had a vote fewer than 50% voted to leave the EU. (I enjoyed the video you mentioned with the views of Alice Weidel and agreed with much of what she said)

Nearly three years after the referendum we now have a huge difference of opinion about what leaving the EU actually means.

Labour wants us to stay customs union. Some Brexiteers say being in the EU customs union is not leaving the EU.

A majority of MP's do not support the deal proposed by the Government. Some Brexiteers say the May deal is not leaving the EU.

Some MP's think that only by walking away from the EU without an agreement would we actually be leaving the EU. The vast majority of MP's (and even Theresa May) know that would be an act of economic vandalism.

If MP's have different opinions on what Brexit actually means how can Parliament possibly know? Are MP's really supposed to act on guesswork? This issue needs to go back to the people and the sooner the better.


Goldpig

[k38] 02/4/2019 02:23

Excellent speech. If only snowflake "Remainers" would listen to this, they might realise why the majority in the UK voted to leave Brussels.

[k38] 02/4/2019 02:17

Drop the backstop and we have a deal !!ORBR-exit means BR-exit.. no negotiations !!Cameron: "we give to British people a referendum with a very simple in or out choice, to stay in the European union or to COME OUT ALTOGETHER, it will be a in or out referendum "

[goldpiguk] 02/4/2019 01:44

Hi

There is so much misinformation being churned out by Brexiteers.

As long as we remain in the EU we will retain our power of veto. This extends to veto on tax, veto on a European Army, veto on our budget rebate (if anyone tries to stop it) and even our veto on any attempt to remove the veto.

People who don't want to see the EU turning into a United States of Europe should realise that only by being in the EU can we with any certainty prevent it from evolving into something we really don't want.

Parliament is trying its best to find a solution to the Brexit impasse but is totally gridlocked. This issue needs to come back to the people for us to decide. The fact that we have a choice to stay or leave, in itself shows that it is us, not Brussels in control of our destiny. We are a sovereign democratic country and that will not change.

We need a legally binding vote to settle this and the sooner the better. We are just inflicting more self harm upon ourselves. We have spent over £4 billion so far on this issue, companies cannot plan for their long term future, jobs are relocating to other EU countries. It is already to late to repair all the damage.

I look forward to our full participation in the upcoming European Elections. As one ERG member put it tonight on tv if this happens the British MEP's will frustrate EU proposals. It made me laugh when he gave it as a reason for leaving on April 12th without a deal. If he is correct it provides a really good reason for staying!

Goldpig

[k38] 02/4/2019 01:07

You must see this video, especially the Remainers.

Excellent speech. If only some of our "Remainers" would listen to this, they might realise why the majority in the UK voted to leave the EU.
How many countries will need to either leave the EU or be on the verge of doing so before the intransigent leaders agree to reform?

....
The AfD leader asks : "Is it any wonder the British see bad faith behind every manoeuvre from Brussels?"

[k38] 02/4/2019 00:08

One more chance for these losers to resolve the puzzle and steal Brexit from the people. I expect this week we are going to hear alot more from Brussels. 8 working days to go.

[maxk] 02/4/2019 00:07

Better not to give people a choice in the first place, it only causes problems.

[k38] 01/4/2019 23:49

Well, she has one more chance.. best of 4

[diku] 01/4/2019 23:47

Is May's best of 5 voting over?..

[cheshire pete] 01/4/2019 23:34

Yes grahamite2, some of press are saying boost to May. I don't see it though. If the Clarke CU proposal had carried by say 100+ then it could have been used as a stick to beat the rebels into supporting MV, but it didn't. Not certain that Bercow would allow it anyway. Don't see how he can as unchanged from MV3. Difficult to tack on CU proposal when it wasn't carried.