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[wbecki] 01/4/2019 10:58

"Dominic Grieve loses confidence vote held by Beaconsfield Tories
Remain-supporting MP, who has said he felt ashamed of his party, rejected by members"


When's the byelection?

[ladeside] 01/4/2019 10:55

Has anyone noticed that the mainstream media have gotten into a terrible habit of reporting everyone and everything as "outraged", furious", "erupting in fury" etc, but in reality once you actually read the story it would be more apt to describe the emotion as "unhappy", "annoyed", "disappointed" etc.

It really is strange times.........

[poikka] 01/4/2019 10:41

Steve Baker for PM

[poikka] 01/4/2019 10:40

Re Grieve and how they voted, here it is.

[likeawalrus] 01/4/2019 09:35

same story back in December except the short was £2.6m, seems to be a non-story to me

[minerve 2] 01/4/2019 09:31

I want the North West of England to have sovereignty. Those in London don't represent our interests here.

[patientcapital] 01/4/2019 09:23

"HAROLD WILSON was urged to warn the British electorate that remaining in the European Economic Community would be a "gross infringement of sovereignty" and a "serious attack on Parliamentary democracy", newly resurfaced Cabinet minutes reveal."How very prescient.

[gbh2] 01/4/2019 08:57

Macron is simply doing what Thatcher did to turn the UK into a low pay economy!

[xxxxxy] 01/4/2019 08:51

A taste of things to come if we stay in the EU. A rotten Project still with the Gestapo and Mafia at its heart. All dressed up in Sunday bests indeed. The EUSSR is an Evil Empire.



LEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 01/4/2019 08:27

No more delay
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: APRIL 1, 2019

Cabinet must get on with our departure on April 12. There is a clear majority of Conservative MPs against any delay. So offer a free trade deal and leave. A fourth vote may not be allowed and is unlikely to give a different answer.

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An April 1 story with a twist
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: APRIL 1, 2019

On Friday two government Ministers at different times told me I had to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement if I wanted to secure a free trade/WTO Brexit. I asked each to explain this apparent contradiction. They said they thought I would be intelligent enough to understand it was the only way to get us out unencumbered.

They said if the Agreement was passed then the government would introduce a bill, as it would need to put the Agreement into UK law. I could then with my friends seek to amend the Bill to meet my wishes or vote it down , thus thwarting the Agreement. As this would all take time we could by default leave on 22 May before anything had been legislated.

I said that was too clever by half. How would I explain my volte face on the Agreement? Was I to say I was deliberately voting for something I disagreed with in the hope I could defeat it later? Or did they wish me to pretend to have come round to accepting the draft Treaty? Wasn’t that an invitation to me to act in bad faith? Wasnt it encouragement to rebel later against government legislation? Wouldn’t the leadership then have a good point if they told me I had to vote for the Bill as I had voted for it in principle in Friday’s vote? As it was about an international Treaty what was to stop the government signing the Treaty on the back of the Parliamentary vote and then facing Parliament down to regularise it in UK law? Once the UK has signed the Treaty it is binding whatever Parliament does.

Both dug in and angrily explained that I must be able to see this was the only rational way for me to behave. I said I begged to differ.

The twist in this April fool story is it is not an April fool. This is an account of what happened. Many bizarre things were said and predicted by people speaking for the government last Friday.

[maxk] 01/4/2019 08:25

The Tories need to get on with Brexit and learn to believe in Britain again

By

Boris Johnson

1 April 2019 • 7:45am




All my party's achievements have been lost in the cacophony of Brexit Credit: Patrick Blower


Otherwise, we might as well hand Corbyn the keys to No 10

I reckon I speak for millions of people on all sides of the debate when I say that after almost three years of Brexit I am fit to burst with impatience. We cannot go on like this. We need to get on with it and to get it done.

We should really come out with no deal – now looking far the best option; but if we cannot achieve that, then we need to get out, now, with an interim solution that most closely resembles what the people voted for, in the knowledge that – following the PM’s decision to step down – we have at least the chance to fix it in the second phase of the negotiations.



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[bargainbob] 01/4/2019 08:20

The ironic thing , I have no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn.

Diku you noticed the lack of Brexit talk on Eastenders.

[diku] 01/4/2019 08:17

He got a plan...a super plan just dropped out of the sky...with more voting to come...hope everybody keeping tabs of the number of voting so far...




Jeremy Corbyn set out plans to rebuild Britain as he declared Labour is ready to win a general election – and lead us into Brexit and beyond.

The Labour leader is ready to deliver his alternative plan for leaving the EU and to head a government “for the many, not the few”.

Labour could press for a vote of no-confidence in the Government as soon as this week, as a poll put it five points ahead of the Tories.

[grahamite2] 01/4/2019 07:24

The Dominic Grieve scandal - a spotlight on all that's wrong with politics now:

[cheshire pete] 31/3/2019 23:15

Alphorn "To lighten up for a moment - that is everyone except Stoned - there should be some really good April 1 stories tomorrow. Plenty of material!"

How about 'now that we have left the EU' ...very funny lol NOT.

[alphorn] 31/3/2019 23:05

grahamite - you are right on that story.

[minerve 2] 31/3/2019 22:58

"Highly competent at picking people's pockets though!"

Unlike corporate UK you mean?

LOL