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[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:45

"careful
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May suggests a snap election.
Tories from both sides of Brexit will vote it down.(needs 75%).
Cabinet war breaks out.


Next week will be critical.
May has flipped she is as crazy as the hard Brexiteers now."


No such thing as Hard Brexiteers you mad Remoaner.

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:44

"Alphorn
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Alphorn
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Nigel Farage issues DIRE warning to MPs about MORNING of March 30th - 'Just you wait!'
NIGEL FARAGE has issued a dire warning to MPs on the outrage that would be felt around the country on the morning of March 30, a day after the UK was meant to leave the EU.
(Express - who else).

Tremble, tremble.

…......………...230;...was that March 30th this year?"


Bet you peddled the tremble tremble line for the European elections that UKIP then went on to win.

Bet you peddled the same at the EU Referndum campaign.

How did those two work out for you again?

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:42

"Remainer Grieve calls for inquiry into UKIP 'INFILTRATION' of Tories amid bid to
OUST him"

But it's democracy - we are all entitled to our opinions, and infiltrating the Tory party is fair game.

What a bad loser Grieve is.

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:38

"excell1
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Think you have now completely lost it careful."


That's because he is another anti democratic nonce with B.A.D

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:37

"careful
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Grieve was elected by his constituency voters, not local party officials.
Brexiteers do not seem to understand democracy."


On thr basis of him standing on the Tory Leave EU manifesto, and his confirmatrion, that despite beign a Remainer, he would respect the vote result.

He has not done that.

Ergo his Constituency are perfectly titled to de-select him and his constituents should also have the right of a By Election to confirm whether they;re happy with his actions.

Ditto the same for all those defectors to TIG.

But you wotn agree with such because you're a Remoaner and such eventualities would undermine your Remain dominated parliament.


"We cannot have a couple dozen extreme pensioner party members instructing elected MP's"

No what we can't have is a group of MPs deliberately betraying the manifesto they stood on. And they'd be Remaoners to man / woman.

[alphorn] 01/4/2019 11:35

G - probably in the same way that they think Exiteers are nuts - there lies the problem.

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:34

"careful
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The next election could be chaotic.
pro Brexit groups could cancel each other out.
Fighting each other for the same voters."

And Pro Remain wont?
You're peddling drivel Careful.


"On the other hand there could have been a significant shift towards remain and most votes are to be won there.Many voters will conclude that the UK has done well in recent years and are so sick of it will want to call the whole Brexit thing off."


Could have?
There hasn't been.
It's still neck and neck which is amazing given 24/7 Proejct Fear that has been peddled for the last 37 months.

Also dont forget LEAVE voters are widely spread meaning far more Constituencies voted LEAVE than Remain - it was decisive.


"Another interesting voting area is Scotland and Northern Ireland. The SNP have soared in popularity recently and are a pro EU. party"

Soared?

There's this interesting angle as well..



"I can see a coalition from hell after the next election"

Concur. A Commie Corbyn Govt backed in Coalition by SNP.
And all the naysayers and critiques of DUP backing Tories will be doing similar of SNP backing Liebour right??? Guffaw. Of course not.

[grahamite2] 01/4/2019 11:33

Do Remoaners really believe the tripe they peddle???

A very interesting question, WBecki! I, for one, haven't worked out the answer. Most of it is patently ridiculous and even insane - but they seem to believe it passionately!

[ladeside] 01/4/2019 11:33

There will be no civil disorder or riots other than the ones arranged by that lunatic Yaxley-Lennon to serve his own fanatical ends.

Without doubt the Express and Mail letters pages will go into meltdown, and we''ll have a few headlines of "betrayed" etc but other than that it will be finished.

The bottom line is that people REALLY don't care.......

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:28

"careful
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May only needs to win the vote once.
She is right to try again.
As long as she defeats the no-dealers eventually.
If not her deal, then a log extension will do.

Things looking better for serious thinkers."

Eh?

Why is it correct to keep pushing the same plan, time and again, in the hope that naysayers tire and concede?

How is that healthy for democracy?

Serious thinkers? Well it clearly isnt halfwits such as you that think such a policy is a good idea. We sow the seeds of serious civil disorder behaving so. Mark my words.The only question is what will be the ignition event.

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:26

"Poikka
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That's odd, K38, you post facts and get red ticks. Maybe the Martians did land after all, lol."

K38 keeps getting ticked by the pillow biting nonce that is Nicebut.

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:20

"I heard yesterday that Remain cabinet members will bring the government down if we leave with no deal. It’s OVER! The Tory Party is finished. If we leave with May’s deal, hard Brexiteers will bring the government down. If we leave with no deal. Remainers will bring the government down. What a farce. And it all seems from having the wrong Prime Minister. The Tory Party is now a laughing stock"

And it will be Remainer MPS that shoulder most of the blame for it is they who are going against the demcoratic vote and it is they who are betraying this nation to a foreign power.

Knives are coming out soon I fear.

[grahamite2] 01/4/2019 11:16

You, Georgey Boy, are a faux Conservative

- or worse. It very much looks like a fifth column has infiltrated the Conservative Party to undermine and destroy it.

[alphorn] 01/4/2019 11:13

"You, Georgey Boy, are a faux Conservative"

Your thinking WB is part of the problem.

The current issue should not be led on party lines. The consequences of a good or bad exit impacts the country - not a few people in a party.

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:13

"grahamite2
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But it gets worse - if you want to see just how bad try this for size:



The Tory leadership can stop any deselection if it wants - we frequently did. CCHQ should suspend the local party.

This is beyond shocking. It exposes the whole "democratic" system we have as a sham and a farce."



This is why civil war is coming to the UK. You cannot overturn democracy and expect there to be no consequences.

Central Office needs to stop foisting candiates on local constituencies for starters.

Grieve de-selected.
We expect a by-election now for this faux Tory needs to be replaced.

[grahamite2] 01/4/2019 11:12

Grieve feels ashamed of his party and his party feels ashamed of him. Surely the parting of the ways should be a matter for rejoicing on both sides?

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:11

George Osborne
✔
@George_Osborne

Dominic Grieve is deselected because of his beliefs in campaign led by his ex UKIP opponent. The Tory leadership can stop any deselection if it wants - we frequently did. CCHQ should suspend the local party. Otherwise we are heading for a huge, historic split in the Tory Party
14.7K
9:01 AM - Mar 30, 2019


"Conservative party split already inevitable. A democratic vote,that yielded a convincing victory by 1.3m million votes for Leave, has been betrayed. 70% odd of Tory voters are Leavers. You, Georgey Boy, are a faux Conservative"

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:07

"cheshire pete
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Well said g2.

Re: his deselection, can't see how he can feel too aggrieved, no pun intended, if he goes against his constituents majority view. A bit like getting fired from a job for failing."


Agree with Graham2



"Re: new Tory leader, tricky one now that Boris, Raab and JRM have wavered at MV3 vote. By rights leader should come from one of the 30 odd rebels who stood firm with the DUP. We need someone now with the bottle to wholeheartedly embrace no deal, but would they get support from a party full of wet remainers? GE not a solution unless Brexit Party comes to the fore"

Raab or Stuart Baker imo.
Perhaps time for a youthful rejig of Cabinet composition.
And cut out most of the women who clearly arent up to the job, turncoats that manty of them are. Sandbach,Wollaston,Allen,Morghan, Soubry.



"TM saying after vote situation is 'grave' presumably referring to no deal exit in 2 weeks.....perish the thought 17+ million might actually get what they voted for ffs. Can she not see that?"

If we dont leave EU the situation is going t obe grave as civil disorder, ritoting and worse will occur. Hence why the Army was on standby - not for Remainers rebelling but for LEavers who see their vote being stolen from them

Overturning democracy has consequences, which I fear we will soon find out.

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 11:00

"Poikka
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I don't think that Grieve should be deselected. I disagree with his views, but he is wholly entitled to them. The big issue is that the PM has failed to lead and negotiate with a strong hand, as we all know - apologies for repetition.

Disagree.

He stood on an election manifesto platform of leaving the EU, of respecting the referendum vote result but has spent the last 36 months doing whatever possible,using whatever legal avenue he could find, to overturn the demcoratic vote.

He deserves more than just de-selection.

[wbecki] 01/4/2019 10:59

"Verhofstadt wants to have EU/Africa union – FOM"

Guy Verhofstadt‏Verified account @guyverhofstadt
Let’s create a single Euro-African economic area. It would have an enormous potential that remains untapped: 1.5 billion consumers, 20 trillion in value, able to rival with China. #ALDEPAC


"You have to be a lunatic if you think FOM for 1.2billion Afrricans is a good idea.
What do people think will happen?"