Kier Share Discussion Threads

[bathboy2] 30/7/2021 17:35

Stdy you probably own at a much higher average than today's price, that's why you work so hard, or you are a paid ramper. Always beware shares like this rise slowly, but drop fast, with covid rising again, another lockdown could be catastrophic. As could be the results, if not received well. Enjoy the weekend, with the sun shining, and always remember 'everything will be better tomorrow' lol

[stdyeddy] 30/7/2021 12:43

What, 'suckered in' to a 300%, 200%, 100% increase in the shareprice? EVERY post you've made has been proven wrong. Give up wolly.

[bathboy2] 30/7/2021 12:34

It's just as good as the other comedy comments on this board, like, the price will be 200p +plus soon , those of you who have ramped this share, how many have you suckered in,

[petersw1] 30/7/2021 12:26

Nice to see a positive laugh, rather than that rather sick form that often gets thrown about here :)

[stdyeddy] 30/7/2021 12:24

lol peter!! Same thoughts, different styles.

[stdyeddy] 30/7/2021 12:23

Btw, wolly/bathboy -- why are you still trolling here? Every post you've made since you started your new bathboy name has been proven wrong. wolly, you should really throw in the towel here; you look ridiculous. As sicko would squawk; COMEDY GOLD, COMEDY GOLD!! 🤣😂

[petersw1] 30/7/2021 12:21

Just had a brief look back at your posts bathboy. You started on the 1st May 2021 when the share price was at 88p. You've made endless gloomy predictions that have all proved wrong. Ignoring the further gains participants made from the open offer, we're now 40% up since then.
A lot of your posts contain a large amount of ignorance and display a failure to understand fairly basic details.

Given that history, is there any reason anyone should give any weight to your opinions?

[stdyeddy] 30/7/2021 12:13

wolly/bathboy -- getting a bit shrill this morning. The price refuses to go down. And evidently the large volume is worrying you. It's looking like a 4-million day. Something is going on, maybe just another fund building its stake, maybe something larger. Time will tell.

[bathboy2] 30/7/2021 11:09

Read the news, its all there, remember kier haven't proved they can make money, just words with plenty of spin, theoretical profits, let's see the numbers, what's it like working for hands,??

[ontheforks] 30/7/2021 10:05

Bathboy you should change your name to aquaman with your financial advice I bet you spend a lot of time under water along with zico and wally Woodford

[itisonlymoney] 30/7/2021 09:55

A lot of buying volume this morning. Something up?

[sparty1] 30/7/2021 09:26

"it will be worthless in 6 -12 months." (syme) that rings a bell wally! lol

I have had a lot of fun trading SYME up and down thanks.. 0.31 this morning up from 0.24 yesterday.

One day you will get something right. Maybe stick to ironmongery..

[bathboy2] 30/7/2021 08:23

See the wheels are coming, mid size civil and utilities contractors, the effects are surely going to be seen by the larger multinationals. The materials supply/price issues, are really beginning to bite, and the price inflation in wages is now getting a head of steam, but don't worry, Kier said they can absorb, with their endless pot of money, which they will probably have to ask for a top up again in 2 years, lol

[stdyeddy] 29/7/2021 23:59

Nicely put Peter. Wolly, as usual, a mixture of wishful thinking and idiocy is causing your fingers to type utter drivel. Sensible people have been telling you for two years that you are wrong about Kier -- the trend is now up. I suggest you take heed of both and stop wasting your time and everyone else's.

And btw, given where the price is today, do you regret telling ontheforks and other shareholders to sell their shares at 42p, 50p, 58p etc etc?? With hindsight, would you say that your 'advice' was poor, or even completely wrong?

[wallywoo] 29/7/2021 21:56

I am describing nothing, just stating facts. In Kier's H1 results they state that they have generated £19m of positive cashflow.However, the balance sheet clearly shows they have lost £44m of cash.They are misleading, just as they are misleading when they say they will make a profit. Once the market discovers that the share price will fall, just as it has for 5 years.This is just a honeymoon period after the equity issue.

[stdyeddy] 29/7/2021 18:59

wolly, your attempts to describe the past and the present, let alone the future for Kier, are as sicko would say, comedy gold!! Given where the price is today, do you regret telling ontheforks and other shareholders to sell their shares at 42p, 50p, 58p etc etc?? With hindsight, would you say that your 'advice' was poor, or even completely wrong?

[wallywoo] 29/7/2021 16:28

Dividends can only be paid if Kier generate cash. In H1 net debt went from (-£310m to -£354m) so they lost another £44m cash.


In the headline figures Kier said they generated £19m of cashflow.


Those can't both be right. (the balance sheet is always the right one!). Kier mislead, they make out they are a viable business. However, they beg for more money every few years because they are not. Kier's main misleading trick is to state operating profit and operating cashflow. These figures are easily manipulated to show whatever they wish (leaving out any costs they don't like the look of!!). However the actual figures are always much much worse.

[stdyeddy] 29/7/2021 16:14

wolly, you prove you're an idiot every time you post. Kier was paying out big dividends five years ago, right up until the end of 2018. Davies has already committed to returning to a dividend policy, paying out a third of profits, which will be between £140m to £157m by Davies's own estimates, and please bear in mind that he is the most downbeat ceo on the planet and practically refuses to trumpet any achievements unless he's talking to staff.

He has achieved every objective so far in his tenure as ceo -- the 'losses' you speak of are the redundancy, restructuring and write-down costs which Kier has incurred for two years. Davies has said that this period is at an end. There's no reason why he should not fulfil his very achievable profit forecasts, particularly since Kier has increased margin each half-year over the last two years and is no longer restructuring -- the business is leaner and more profitable now.

We already know that the September results will be good; 3% on £3.4bn, ie £100m in profit with good cash conversion -- the margin and turnover results have already been stated in the trading update.

And since you bought IRV and told everyone to buy, and subsequently lost, and then sold Kier short and told everyone to sell, and lost again, and have 'ramped' many other shares which have consistently underperformed, I think it's safe to say that no one here will be taken in by your hysterical pleas which are based on nothing but lies and your own vindictive and rather stupid nature. 😊

[wallywoo] 29/7/2021 15:56

Lol, Sparty SYME was your hot buy when the share price was 44p, 2 months ago. Yesterday it fell to 23, a all time low.

It has bounced a little today, but it will be worthless in 6 -12 months.

It has no history, no credible management, little revenue.

Kier have done nothing but lose cash for 5 years. They somehow have managed to beg for more for the second time in 2.5 years. And now have everything to prove That's the facts, it is off the scale high risk. Inflation is here and coming harder and this industry could well be hit hard by it. September results will be poor, even H1 results had a (£53.4m) loss on the bottom line (H2 will be worse). Sell today before it's too late. It is rare to see a company that talks up it's position soo much and every time the actual balance sheet and profit and loss show otherwise. Figures don't lie, I urge Pi's to read the huge amounts of cash lost here over the last 3 years (icl H1).

Both Kier and SYME are fraud stocks IMO. Certainly not investments.