Kier Share Discussion Threads

[petersw1] 29/7/2021 15:15

Ah, that line again from you Wally.
Would be valid if you hadn't put so much effort into bigging yourself up with lies.
You're always so keen to try and build yourself up, but quickly cry about it when the ways you have discredited yourself are pointed out.

You seem to struggle to distinguish between fact and opinion when it comes from yourself. The parts of what you say that are factual will be obvious to everyone, so aren't exactly adding anything to the discussion. The rest is your opinion, which really isn't worth anything round here given how far wrong you've been and by how many times you have been proven a liar.


Liberum have a target price of 150p, a chunk below the consensus. They don't seem to be incorporated in the aggregators of analyst forecasts. Since there's 3 you can work out the individual prices.
No idea what Peel Hunt's forecast is or if they have one currently.
If anyone knows a source for getting the individual forecasts I'd love to know it.


No dividend as yet and only a small inkling of their turnaround in the H1 results. So, still some way to go for investors that want everything spelt out in hard numbers. That though leaves plenty of upside for those willing to accept the results being moderately ahead of the Board's expectations to be a good thing.

[rayfenn] 29/7/2021 14:27

BIG VOG RNS TOMORROW.

Fill your boots.

[wallywoo] 29/7/2021 13:47

Lol, lol, absolutely love it.Just look at the ramping team. Scrabbling around to discredit. Saying nothing of course on the facts I present.Keep going guys, you have to earn your money!!!

[stdyeddy] 29/7/2021 12:25

Yes, wolly, you are SUCH an EXPERT. But wait...

OH WOLLY, WOLLY, WOLLY!!! YOU ARE SO BUSTED!! OH MY GOD!! I'VE BEEN READING ALL OF YOUR INTERSERVE POSTS. AS SICKO WOULD SAY; THEY ARE COMEDY GOLD!!!

All this time you've been saying that you shorted Interserve AND Carillion, and it turns out that that is, as usual, all a lie!! I really shouldn't be surprised, because lying is what you do all day every day nowadays, but wow wolly -- what a whopper!!

You went long Interserve in April 2017, constantly 'adding to my position' for an entire year (wait a sec.. this sounds familiar... just like you adding to your Kier short for seven months...) 'ramping' away -- as you like to put it -- with dozens of posts encouraging buyers on Interserve until suddenly realising you'd made a massive mistake in December 2018 and then posting just FOUR negative posts right at the end.

If we attach ANY truth at all to your posts (and that is hard to justify) it seems you lost hugely on Interserve. And now, how IRONIC!!! After learning that harsh lesson, you've also lost massively on Kier going the opposite way!!! Wolly, tell me honestly (practically impossible for you), are you the worst investor on advfn? Are you perhaps the worst investor since the Dutch tulip-bulb disaster?? I am literally laughing out loud!!

[johnbuythedips] 29/7/2021 11:17

In other new Kier issue 284 million shares @85p. 2 months later the share price is £1.25.
You absolute loser.

[wallywoo] 29/7/2021 11:10

Liberum and Peel Hunt have been the main brokers for Kier for over 6 years. They both have the worst broker record for making the wrong calls out of all brokers (being wrong over 80 percent of the time on all the stocks they cover). They have both had buy notes on Kier for over 5 years, since the share price was 1250p. They both have picked up substantial broking business from Kier and are certainly not independent and impartial.Anyone who is not a paid ramper please note these facts. Kier is very risky, over valued, with no dividends and a high risk that they will ever pay a dividend.

[johnbuythedips] 29/7/2021 10:43

Wally - short the Kinterserve spread and carried out. Topped, tailed and exposed.
What an absolute loser.

[petersw1] 28/7/2021 21:51

Hmm, actually seems they would end up at place 300 in the FTSE All-share by consensus market-cap.
That misses 26 companies that are without consensus target prices.
FTSE 250 in roughly a year seems even more plausible :)

[petersw1] 28/7/2021 21:39

I know analysts tend to be biased to the upside and fail to predict the big falls, but it seems to me they have been raising their target prices for Kier.

FT lists 3 analysts with 12 month price targets as High 200, Median 180, and Low 128.3. SharePad shows Consensus Target price of 177.

350th place in the FTSE All-share is currently BCPT at a Market Cap of £728.7m
Assuming nothing else changes Kier would need a share price of 164p to beat that market cap and enter the FTSE 250.

So seems pretty plausible that it could happen in a year or so.
Though I imagine recalculating the FTSE 250 based on consensus target prices won't give the same result.

[petersw1] 28/7/2021 21:15

At face value the british bulls algorithm appears to have worked pretty well on KIE.
The page shows its trades (with 0.6% commision) would have turned £100 into £672.19 in 24 months.

[stdyeddy] 28/7/2021 20:38

wolly, no one takes you seriously at all on here. Your entire agenda has been exposed. You were long on Interserve from April 2017 until it crashed and you lost a load of money. Then you were short on Kier and lost a load more money when it kept going up from 42p until your badly judged short (starting from 50p) eventually became unsustainable and you were forced out of the position. You are an embittered idiot with no valid interest in this share -- nothing more than a boring troll. And by your actions, losing money both long and short on construction firms, you have proven that you know nothing about this sector.

No one is 'ramping' here. While you are absent, there are practically no comments. I and others, merely confront your lies.

You said that this would never go past £1 and that if it did, you would lose money AND you would give a 'hearted' (whatever that means) apology to all of the other posters here. Where is that apology?

[wallywoo] 28/7/2021 19:06

I have no doubt that Kier are very over valued. They have a high £550m mkt cap, very high risk for a company very unlikely to generate any cash for at least 6- 12 months (and around -£300m of tangible net assets). Shareholders will get no return here for a long while and the market is also over valued and is likely to be under pressure. The company's with no dividends always get hit hard when the market turns.


Where is Sparty? The genius who thought SYME ( and Kier) were a great investment (didn't you like them too Stdy?). That's the general level of idiot on this BB. They think a company that has been bailed out twice and disappointed many times is a bargain!!. Kier will be back under 100, very soon.

Ignore any ramped stock, buy high dividend quality defensive stocks. A storm is coming!! Stagflation, inflation, crippled central banks, look for the air raid bunkers.

[johnbuythedips] 28/7/2021 16:50

Hi Chris, sorry Wally I have loaded up on Kier and have no reason to bail.
Wally liar LOL
EXPOSED

[stdyeddy] 28/7/2021 16:29

Btw wolly, I am enjoying your interserve comments immensely -- here's one of my favourites:

wallywoo - 28 Jun 2017 - 12:11:42 - 4101 of 12103 Interserve - Awaiting A Recovery - IRV
I agree Chris, have loaded up at around 220p, and see no reason to bail....


But of course wolly, it does look somewhat rash and impetuous when considered against your comment five months later:

wallywoo - 23 Nov 2017 - 11:15:16 - 5794 of 12103 Interserve - Awaiting A Recovery - IRV
Currently think a test of the 67p low was always on the cards. Now if this level breaks then we need to be very careful here. I would expect though on the balance of probability a strong bounce off this resistance.

[wallywoo] 28/7/2021 15:05

Since Stdy was so kind to post the candle analysis that showed Kier to be a buy.I thought I would post that they have now changed their minds and it is listed as a Sell.It's funny stdy doesn't seem to post those!!HTTPS://www.britishbulls.com/m/SignalPage.aspx?lang=en&Ticker=KIE.L

[rayfenn] 27/7/2021 11:43

Does anyone miss PL Dil ?

[itisonlymoney] 26/7/2021 12:47

Slow news but few sellers. Price seems to be creeping upwards, slowly.