Kier Share Discussion Threads

[pl dil] 22/7/2021 09:13

Wtf is a Harami Cross ?

[stdyeddy] 21/7/2021 18:29

One for the chartists -- a strong signal generated today. British Bulls says buy:


KIER GROUP
Signal Update.
Our system’s recommendation today is to BUY. The BULLISH HARAMI CROSS pattern finally received a confirmation because the prices crossed above the confirmation level which was at 125.3000, and our valid average buying price stands now at 125.9600. The previous SELL signal was issued on 13/07/2021, 8 days ago, when the stock price was 129.1000. Since then KIE.L has fallen by -2.43%.

Market Outlook.
Let’s jump on our white horses and go for a bullish ride. The bullish pattern that was previously identified is finally confirmed and a BUY signal is generated. The market is telling you about a new profit. Do not miss this bullish opportunity.

[sparty1] 21/7/2021 12:45

You would think a leper's fingers would drop off with all that keyboard work...I suppose he could use his nose..or another appendage..?


Fenn , you are a proven liar. Your Morgan Stanley RYA 4euros posts are still there..Those on LSE have been removed..just like you.
VOG 3.5p.. Those who invested a few years back with £10K do not have enough for a bag of chips..

[petersw1] 21/7/2021 11:05

The order book has gone back to looking very short on sellers again.

[petersw1] 20/7/2021 16:22

Happy to have been of service :)
I'd seen it awhile ago when attempting to dig into a bit what it looked like when the big falls happened.
I did initially have some mixed feelings about dragging up someone elses losses, but his immediate reaction blew that away.

[stdyeddy] 20/7/2021 15:39

Peter, we have tried the rehabilitation route with wolly before, but he is a leper who refuses to change his spots, or let them heal up. (I'd like to call him a leopard, but a diseased wretch fits much better with my mental image of him.) What I find most interesting about wolly and his lying is his shameless nature. He evidently grew up in a place where truth and integrity were valued less than empty boasts. Consequently, wolly would rather be known as a liar than a failure. However, as you have implied, his deceitful strategy inevitably leads to him being known as both. Thank you for pointing to the truth of his Interserve connection; that was most enlightening.

[stdyeddy] 20/7/2021 15:05

Very entertaining. 😂🤣

[petersw1] 20/7/2021 14:42

Well done Wally, feels like good progress that you've managed to recall and talk about those hard Interserve times. I can see you find it very hard to discuss things that didn't go quite the way you hoped.
I can also see that you're a bit insecure and keen to build yourself up as a knowledgeable and experienced investor. The more you try the worse it seems to get, no?
You end up needing to lie and build up false stories and it becomes a bit compulsive and leads to blatant lies that everyone can see through. Then how can you be experienced and knowledgeable when you need to lie to try to sustain such a position?
You also throw in tidbits about the size of your portfolio and length of time investing, but they only add to the sense of your insecurity in yourself.

But it is ok Wally, if you are just honest and drop the lies I'm sure the world will accept you as you are. We all have our mix of success and failure. We don't all have to be top notch investors.


Now, about your magic "formula", it isn't really very insightful is it?

You say "any company in this sector with a tangible net assets less than (-£100m) goes bust eventually."

That statement is a subset of, and doesn't say anything more than:
Any company goes bust eventually.
Which is something I'd hold as true, but not something that is really useful to guide investment decisions. If you could refine it somehow to be a bit more precise with timing than it might be more useful.
Which if you try a bit more honesty you would perhaps manage to accept. Given, taken at face value you appear have lost money applying your rule of thumb as Kier rose.

And, finally for now, I do post mostly on this board. Though it isn't strictly true that I don't post elsewhere.
I'm mostly posting here as a holder that found the raise process to be something interesting to follow closely, I like to get down into details from time to time. I felt I had something to contribute to the discussion and find working things out and discussing to a be a good route to learning. Our lovely discussions since then have kept me engaged.

[rayfenn] 20/7/2021 14:21

MS last broker note dated 6th July has a target price of 5 Euros on RYA.

The 4 Euro note is months ago you moron.

[stdyeddy] 20/7/2021 08:58

Not at all. We will be back in the ftse250, either this September or December. I intend holding until January at least. That security hut of yours must be uncomfortable in this heat.

[zicopele] 20/7/2021 08:47

So it is you Steddy. I assume that dream of FTSE250 entry is now a distant memory for you.

[stdyeddy] 20/7/2021 08:45

The other bad apple bobs up -- what's your story then sicko? Is it just getting-the-sack-from-Kier and being a bit stupid?

[zicopele] 20/7/2021 08:40

Which of you guys is selling these shares? Because the sizzle has evaporated. 135ponly a few weeks ago and now 120p.

Might be Steddy trying to get out first.

[ontheforks] 19/7/2021 17:00

Thanks stdy will hold my remaining kier now till September then go from there my aim is to get a portfolio going as one thing I've learnt from shareholding it's better to spread them around lol good luck longs 👍🏻

[stdyeddy] 19/7/2021 16:39

I wish you luck. Lloyds at 44p today. Let's see if Kier at 122p outperforms over the next six months. (I hope neither share lags; though my money remains on Kier.)

[ontheforks] 19/7/2021 16:24

Mind you though to make wally feel better I did sell £2800 worth of shares today going to up my position in lloyds now there paying a dividend might win might lose but that's the game we play good luck longs 👍🏻

[stdyeddy] 19/7/2021 16:16

Ahh forks... wolly is always down, but like a cornered rat, he still does damage to people who don't know what he is (a barefaced liar).

Masturpig is a different animal entirely and though we have had a lengthy spat previously, I don't bear him the same kind of ill will that I have for wolly. Don't forget, wolly broadly gulled claymagnet out of half his Kier holding with lies, and I suspect he wasn't the only one -- wolly is posting on multiple platforms and with multiple identities, spreading poison wherever he can. Clay's loss is a real-world impact from wolly's malicious campaign on here against Kier investors.

[ontheforks] 19/7/2021 16:09

Not to kick a man while he's down but wally also claimed that costain were the better investment and judging by the writing style it's awfully similar to imastupidgits posts on the cost board 🤔.....

[stdyeddy] 19/7/2021 15:52

Btw wolly, I am enjoying your interserve comments immensely -- here's one of my favourites:

wallywoo - 28 Jun 2017 - 12:11:42 - 4101 of 12103 Interserve - Awaiting A Recovery - IRV
I agree Chris, have loaded up at around 220p, and see no reason to bail....


But of course wolly, it does look somewhat rash and impetuous when considered against your comment five months later:

wallywoo - 23 Nov 2017 - 11:15:16 - 5794 of 12103 Interserve - Awaiting A Recovery - IRV
Currently think a test of the 67p low was always on the cards. Now if this level breaks then we need to be very careful here. I would expect though on the balance of probability a strong bounce off this resistance.

[stdyeddy] 19/7/2021 15:43

Oh wolly, so now it comes out!! You lost a load of money on Interserve. Why did you keep this a secret for so long? But you are confusing cause and effect. Your own bad judgement and lack of self-awareness has blinded you to what is self-evident -- you are the loser, not the sector. You lost money on Interserve going long, and lost more money on Kier going short!!

You are of course in denial. You are blaming the sector, instead of yourself. I would say this is a mental health issue. You are suffering from grief and directing your anger and disappointment towards Kier investors.

It is also quite obvious that you did not 'wake up and go short' on Interserve. If you had, there'd have been dozens of 'deramping' messages from you on the Interserve board. We know from experience that that's how you like to operate. But there are only four muted messages from you on Interserve, right at the end. You got caught, lost a load of money, and are trying to pretend that you made some money. That's the same as your refusal to acknowledge your mistakes here. You've never apologised to everyone for being wrong here about the Kier sp, even though you promised you would if the price went past £1. You are evidently unable to face up to your mistakes or act honestly. Why do you bother? You look like a total clown. You really should give up posting here and find a proper hobby.

[wallywoo] 19/7/2021 15:27

Lol look at the ramping team! Just look at it.


Kier is a extremely similar company to Interserve, Jarvis, Connaught, Carillion. The others all went bust. And you guys are really excited because I once went long in this loser sector. I have learnt my lesson (and went short) any company in this sector with a tangible net assets less than (-£100m) goes bust eventually. Kier have a estimated (-£300m). Interserve were the last peg on my formula that saw through who can't generate any cash (their tangible net assets were -£180m to -£300m). Kier is no where near out of the woods.


This is a loser sector. It will lose your money. Just as it lost mine before I woke up and went short.


Stay clear if you value your savings

[stdyeddy] 19/7/2021 14:57

Come on now wolly -- cat got your tongue?? Let's have a little 'lol' from you with another one of your sneaky lies, because I have a stack of your own idiotic comments to dump on your lying face.

[stdyeddy] 19/7/2021 14:39

OH WOLLY, WOLLY, WOLLYPOPS... 😂🤣😂🤣8514;🤣 You are such a clown!!