Kier Share Discussion Threads

[jeffian] 02/1/2019 23:21

Is it possible you could take this conversation somewhere else and we could get back to Kier?

[gettingrichslow] 02/1/2019 22:16

Nomdeplume, why do you think it has nothing to do with Brexit when many of the EU nationals that are leaving are themselves citing Brexit and the associated uncertainty as the reason for them leaving? And many of the vacancies that are appearing are quite clearly those vacated by EU nationals. This is backed up by recent statements made by the NHS, London Underground and unions representing farmers, nurses and university lecturers, who have all said they are seeing EU nationals returning to their home countries since the referendum. This creates vacancies!

[nomdeplume] 02/1/2019 21:38

Getting: I agree that the changes to the benefit system have encouraged more people to find jobs. However, it has sweet Fanny Adams to do with Brexit. I always feel that Brexiteers should look at a map. We are a small country in Europe that can no longer rely on the slave trade and an empire to support us. Perhaps Brexiteers should remember that the USA, which they appear to admire, is actually a union of European immigrants.

[kangaroo joe] 02/1/2019 21:24

Euro net migration has fallen but is still positive last time I looked.

[minerve] 02/1/2019 15:03

getting isn't the brightest button in the box.

[marksp2011] 02/1/2019 14:34

A lot of the Poles and Romanians are leaving along with the Spanish. The Poles are being incentivised to go home.

This will have quite an effect on the rentals market especially the house market as they tend to group let

I have no idea why anyone thinks the jobs they held will now be taken by Brits....the Brits could have had those jobs any time they wanted them.

[gettingrichslow] 02/1/2019 10:56

I'm afraid you're showing you are the one who hasn't thought this through. Ooh, we've got a historic spike in population, let's get loads of immigrants in to pay for our retirements. Oooh, we've got loads of new people now, we need to build loads of new schools and hospitals, so let's get even more immigrants in to provide the labour. Oooooh, now they're all having children too!! Ever heard of a Ponzi scheme you dunderhead?? Not sustainable. Chimp thinking for a Remainer chimp!!

[gettingrichslow] 02/1/2019 10:32

Minny, yes, immigration will fall, first from EU then from non-EU too. Wages will rise in the low paid jobs and be filled by Brits. Won't happen overnight but will be gradual. It's happening already, the two Polish ladies that make my morning coffee have left to go back to Krakow and have been replaced by two Brits, one of which has been on benefits for last three years. Good news all round. And means lower capital investment required on roads, rail, water etc in long run. Understand the logic of that dunderhead?

[minerve] 02/1/2019 10:19

Look at the short tracker for this stock. All leaving to short Plus 500! ROFLMAO!

Now it is your turn! ROFLMAO!

[buywell3] 02/1/2019 08:44

The chart is looking dire

300p beckons

Will Trump save the World ?

[gettingrichslow] 02/1/2019 08:40

Zico is right. This one is strictly for lemmings. Big trouble ahead. What's going to happen when population of UK starts falling?

[zicopele] 02/1/2019 08:26

It is all over ...the construction market will contract this year.

[minerve] 31/12/2018 17:54

We can't assume it was a zero holding even though it might have been. It may have been a holding under the notifiable threshold that has increased. Nevertheless, it has increased for whatever reason. Hope they don't immediately lend it out to the shorters.

Happy New Year to all long holders here!

[kangaroo joe] 31/12/2018 17:47

Prudential/M&G see some value here with a 7.93% stake (from zero holding). Overhang reducing quickly. Brokers promoting etc. Hope that with some new management by the Summer we might recoup our losses. Bloody 'deal happy' accountants, they never learn!

[ayl30] 27/12/2018 08:15

STD Life ups investment here, rns

[minerve] 24/12/2018 11:59

Actually the current mcap is approximately £660m.

This short happened during the middle of a rights issue so it depends whether you use the pre or post rights no of shares in the short calculation. Whichever way it is your £100M is wrong.

[elcapital2018] 24/12/2018 10:58

mcap is around 1bn. 10% of that is ...................

[minerve] 24/12/2018 10:54

OK, so two up-tick the questioning of a short-term short position. I said it was City rumour and I think it could be true. So, Minerve looks into it a little further.....

If the average total short on the week was, say, 13%, and it for a few hours increased to 23%, that is a short-term increase of 10%. I don't make that £100m, it is more like £38m. 8 companies are currently shown as shorting greater than 0.5%. That's £4.75m each, most likely leveraged, during a rump placement where bulk purchase can be negotiated with the brokers to potentially close out those short-term shorts at 360p.

I don't find that hard to believe.