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[glavey] 21/11/2022 03:40

"Belgorod which is in Russia proper itself is often under attack by the armed forces of the Ukraine"

Before 24th February? As an act of civil war?

[roberthoneyman] 21/11/2022 01:44

I'm Scottish, which is british, and I agree with everything that Loganair writes

Keep up the good work me old chap

[loganair] 20/11/2022 22:24

Smithie6 wrote the following on the Polymetal thread - ....fairly clear imo from the latest text from Loganair that he is a Russian. Not Russian friendly but an actual Russian.

the content & the style/level of the English in the text of his post makes it fairly visible imo.


I was born in Britain and I am a British passport holder and therefore what S6 posted about me is libel...and how the hell do you come to the conclusion that the style and level of English in the texts in my post makes it fairly visible imo???

My texts are to a very high standard, very high level of English well above that of many other posters.

My posts are as factually correct as I can make them therefore please will you show me what you copied I said in your last post is incorrect...As far as I understand both paragraphs in your pervious post that are copied from a post of mine are 100% factually correct.

[smithie6] 20/11/2022 22:18

loganair is a Rusky imo

shown by the super one sided biased text in his posts

"Putin promised the Russian speakers in South and East Ukraine to protect them from the Bandera/Azov fascists and therefore I think the conflict will continue until Putin has once and for all rid the Ukraine, especially the South and East of Ukraine any and all Bandera/Azov.

Under the Russian constitution, no part of the Russian Federation can ever be given over to another country...."

[popit] 20/11/2022 19:43

loganair

Did you see my last post?

So why do you think existing shareholders will get a separate ringfence of their shares to avoid dilution? This will be good news if it happens but have you seen any evidence that JRS will do this if they have a future capital raise?

And the EU are trying their best now to steal the assets and the property of Russia and Russian people. Do you see any risks that JRS may have their Russian shareholdings stolen by Russia? I think the risks are very low but not zero.

I have voted no now and I assume that you have voted yes now. If the vote for the new mandate is successful what benefit do you think this will be for the existing JRS shareholders?

And when and how do you see this terrible conflict ending? Ukraine does not look like they have any serious interest in negotiating at present.

I think Russia will start a big offensive in the winter and if Ukraine still refuse to negotiate then Russia will probably have to take the whole of Ukraine.

[loganair] 20/11/2022 19:10

World War 2, which was the only country that really benefited by this war? the USA

World War 1, which was the only country that really benefited by this war? the USA

Iraq war 2 and the weapons of mass destruction, which was the only country that really benefited by this war? the USA

[totalgeek69] 20/11/2022 17:48

Geez, you seem to think that others posting here that don't follow the standard rubbish spouted by most news sources in the west are bots. It is very clear that is not the case. We are just normally people that have freedom of thought to think for ourselves and observe reality around us. Loganair has mentioned that he has lived in Russia knows people in Ukraine. I haven't lived in Russia but meet every weekend Ukrainian and Russian citizens. This might be incredible and impossible for you and Masergt etc to understand but we all meet together as friends. I personally know Crimeans that are really happy to be part of Russia. Of course they would like the war to end and peace be found. If all this continues it will be almost all European economies not just Russia. Wake up and look around you. The only ones to benefit is the USA and eventually through atricition Russia. Russia are and will pay a huge price for sure but for them it is worth the struggle so it will carry on until it has been settled.

[galeforce1] 20/11/2022 17:17

There's a good piece in the Mail today by Peter Hitchens that touches on the Ukraine situation. Basically his view is:
With the eastwards expansion of Nato we’ve been taunting the Russians for ages.
The Ukrainians are not the saints we make out. They are a load of louts and gangsters.
This is none of our business.
We know nothing about the Ukraine; and yet we get all worked up about it.
It’s costing a fortune.
It gave Boris a chance to indulge in moral posturing rather than address problems at home.
There's a real risk of sparking off a wider conflagration.

[1917again] 20/11/2022 17:12

masergt, thank you too for correcting the bots from Putin's Reich Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda

firtashia, hope your family are ok. In six months Russia will either be bankrupt or have a revolution or both

[loganair] 20/11/2022 13:19

Sadly too many posters are falling for all this Western propaganda, falling for the scam.

Mainstream Western media are just mouth pieces of all the scams going on in the world today.

I was in Ethiopia during the time of "Do they know it's Christmas time," I often overheard the BBC correspondent phoning through his report from the Addis Hilton, totally different to what was actually happening on the ground in Ethiopia...I saw grain silos were full, were so full that the grain was spilling out right across the road, plenty of rain over the majority of the country etc.

[rjmahan] 20/11/2022 13:11

Just ignore the pro ukranian brainwashed sheep loganair.

They have no idea about anything other than the propaganda of the mainstream.

[smithie6] 20/11/2022 10:11

masergt

thanks for taking the time to write those long posts with lots of detailed historic info about Ukraine, Crimea, Russia & the roles of the leaders in the past. And including links to web pages that help support/prove the points made.

very informative.

[loganair] 20/11/2022 09:47

Returning to JRS and the vote - It seems to me reasonable to say that JRS would not be going for this vote unless they had most if not all the top 10 share holders already on board and therefore I think the vote will be passed in favour of the change in mandate.

[loganair] 20/11/2022 09:24

Glavey - During the American Civil War hardly any of the fighting was conducted on any part of the Union, virtually all was in the CSA States. Very quickly the Union took Baton Rouge in Louisiana and also took both banks of the Mississippi River thereby cutting off Texas from the rest of the CSA.

What the Mississippi River was to the CSA and its capture by the Union is the equivalent of the Dnipro River in the Ukraine.

Belgorod which is in Russia proper itself is often under attack by the armed forces of the Ukraine - therefore your post doesn't hold water.

In Vietnam the North was bombed in the same way Belgorod is however no real land battles took place on any part of North Vietnam by anybody from the South.

The South Vietnam was heavily supported by the U.S. which kept the war there going for a decade instead of being over relatively quickly, who then pulled out and threw the South Vietnamese under the bus in the same way the U.S. did to Afghanistan and they will also do so to the Ukraine.

[totalgeek69] 20/11/2022 09:06

Well you are so easy to gaslight. Obviously you have now explained to everyone that Russia was the country that developed Ukraine. Of course all empires have their brutal past and Stalin is among the most brutal of all. I am not a Putin supporter but do like to highlight people that are so obviously one sided in their opinions and unable to admit the truth is not what they are saying. You even mentioned that about me creating history to suit my few. Look in the mirror mate. Anyway moving swiftly on this will be an interesting week for JRS.. Look forward to the outcome of the vote.

[glavey] 20/11/2022 03:22

So why was Ukr. not fighting in Rus? Can we assume that they didn't want a 'civil war' as you call it?

[loganair] 19/11/2022 23:56

Khruschev who was born only 5 miles from the Ukrainian border and often said he felt Ukrainian and had a deep affinity with Ukraine and Crimea was his gift to the Ukraine.

Brezhnev the deputy leader of the USSR at the time was born in Dniprodzerzhynsk, Ukraine which is a little North of Dnipro. At the time of his birth this was part of the Russian Empire and not the Ukraine, only became part of the Ukraine when the Ukraine SSR was formed in order to make the Ukraine SSR a viable republic with in the USSR.

Putin does not want to bring back the Soviet Union as many keep saying, Putin just wants to reunite all the land that use to be part of the Russia that was given over to the Ukraine in circa 1921.

Therefore what is going on between Russia and the Ukraine is more of a civil war similar to that of North and South Vietnam or between the Union and Confederate States of America.

[loganair] 19/11/2022 23:26

firt - I don't know who you are talking about when you say "deliberately spreading disinformation & BS" that's not me as I use to live and work in Russia and also have intermittent communication with two people who are currently in Kherson City and on the whole my posts are real and accurate information rather than many who just post what they've heard on the mainstream media who are mouth pieces of all the scams going on in the world today.

The mainstream media is selling us a lie when it comes to the Ukraine.

[firtashia] 19/11/2022 22:29

Fair comment masergt, I see where you’re coming from - I think it was Karl Popper who emphasised the importance, in a democratic society, of being intolerant towards the intolerant, and he was right. Appreciate your last post, Regards, Firtash.

[masergt] 19/11/2022 21:53

firtashia. Sorry, but meant to add I hope your family are safe. ATB.