Hvivo Share Discussion Threads

[tonyw99] 26/9/2018 07:24

Check the 2017 accounts and the number of options exercised. It will be a pretty big coincidence if the 1,332.6m admitted to market and available if not!

[bernymadoff] 25/9/2018 23:34

And you're assuming it was the ex-CEO who exercised the options last week. The RNS didn't specify who it was..

[bernymadoff] 25/9/2018 23:32

Here come the derampers clutching at straws once again. If the ex-CEO was selling off her options she would not obviously not need to declare. But if as you are insinuating that she is offloading because she thinks this is the highest the share price will go then it stands to reason that the current directors would be selling too. And they would have to declare all transactions. Nobody is selling except weak PIs and swing traders playing the 60-70 range.

[tonyw99] 25/9/2018 22:08

no Need for declaration if it’s the ex-ceo offloading the options she exercised last week

[macangts] 25/9/2018 22:05

Let’s get real and back to basics.

We have a real risk with this stock
If it were to turn a profit as per Trevor’s suggestion for 2019 we would need revenue of circa 35M at current GP

Current suggestions of revenue seems to be 20m ie current revenue plus 10m new contract.
Quarantine unit is near capacity!

Current cash at say 12 with 5million cash burn BEFORE 2019.
35Million turnover would eat up cash in debtors and stock at current rates ie they would struggle to fund the 35million revenue even if were offered on a plate.

HVO need a deal or Mr Woodford etal are putting their hands in their pockets iMHO

[bernymadoff] 25/9/2018 21:27

More 50k buys and more evidence that the big fish are swallowing up what little remains of the PIs stock. Someone on LSE has been suggesting that these are the management options being offloaded but he's barking totally up the wrong tree. Most if not all of those options were for directors and if they were being traded they would need to be declared. Personally I think it is Woodford and/or others building a holding while the price is kept at these levels. Bear in mind that for Woodford to next declare he would need to go over 29% and that would require him to acquire another approx 1m shares which is not easy given the low liquidity here. This is so obviously being lined up for a deal with one of the majors and with so few shares in free float the big boys are doing their best to maximise their holdings before it is sealed.

[discojames] 22/9/2018 09:16

a1samu, the only rubbish spouted on here is by you, you post absolutely nothing of content, just blatant deremps. No doubt if it gets cheap enough you will take the position you are obviously desperate for, and change your posts to massively positive in a heartbeat, I've seen it a 1000 times before on bulletin boards. Saying "Price reflects value always" just shows how amateur you are. Why would anyone buys shares if they are always at fair value and no more or less? Have you ever heard of sentiment? Why do shares frequently move up to +/-5% a day on no news if the share price is always correct? You are a class B idiot. I would give you an A rating but that is reserved for the real weirdos like applegarthlse.

[spurs777] 21/9/2018 22:30

8% I'm be ashamed to even announce that on here, playing with penny's I guess, ohh forgot you got a gas bill end of the month that you need to pay off, keep hold of your penny's HVO don't want them or any other AIM stock, you CUN7

[spurs777] 21/9/2018 22:28

What the hell do you know about the stock! How can you even say Berny and Leas are talking rubbish! These guys have been holders from day one! Leas have bought this stock at 15p when you dint even know what HVO was, you sound like a armature investor who clearly knows nothing about the stock DYOR then come back!

[applegarthlse] 21/9/2018 20:24

THIS IS FOR MUG PUNTERS ! I'm up 8% today and expecting more next week from Distil (DIS) 4p coming very soon :D

[jrlomax] 21/9/2018 15:53

Seems the market disagrees with you

[a1samu] 21/9/2018 13:24

I HAVE NEVER READ SO MuCH RUBBISH AS SPOUTED BY LEAST AND BERNY. Either there is value which the share price reflects or there is not and the market makers make a mint out of. Price reflects value always and it is not what is written here by these underhand trouble makers. There is no value being created by this company. All the directors can do is fleece the shareholders.

BEWARE of least and Berny. They are clearly in cahoots peddling a hidden agenda!

[leas1] 21/9/2018 11:18

berny, there may also be non disclosure contracts in place for any discussions. I know no news lead to speculation so putting flu-5 to onside then as you say the current business underpins our 50m MC. I think, there lies the problem some pi's cannot understand. They are winning contracts, finances are under control, promising pipeline and will profitable in a very short timeframe. Meanwhile, the institutions have increased their holdings and the free float is decreasing daily.
Investors seem to overlook that and just watch the share price trade in the apparent doldrums and make decisions based on that alone.

[bernymadoff] 21/9/2018 10:57

Leas you're bang on about transfer of wealth from the impatient to the patient. Since yesterday the MMs have been hungrily buying up every PI sell and feeding a buyer who I presume is Woody. The company have said nothing whatsoever on Flu-v but once the management and ii's have finished positioning themselves they will drip feed it into the market. The current share price is underpinned by the core business so this is a safe place to park your money while waiting for that life changing upside from a sale or licensing of Flu-v.

[a1samu] 21/9/2018 10:51

I already made my comments on the £12 contract and reminded how WTB on making a contract with Cocacola immediately released an RNS, next day whereas this two bit outfit deemed it right to mislead their shareholders, probably created a false market in the shares by waiting until the interim announcement. The deal itself might help keep the company afloat if nothing goes wrong!

[leas1] 21/9/2018 10:33

'Price is King and is always right'???? Trading at 15p in April.

[discojames] 21/9/2018 10:31

a1samu - what did you think of the new £12m contract?

[andrewsr] 21/9/2018 10:21

'Nothing coming to hold it up'??? Just profitable in 2019 + deal for Flu-v

[leas1] 21/9/2018 10:18

Bill, I think that is the point the pi's are missing. Unfortunately many want instant gratification that mirrors society. A few months to some is a lifetime. This is a transparent classic transfer of money but what frustrates me is the pi cannot see it.
Not too long ago when we had daily spreads of 10% the share price was trading in the mid teens. Yet 3 months on and a 400% rise some are struggling to grasp the potential here. Apart from the ii's.

[a1samu] 21/9/2018 10:15

If no value is created it is reflecting in falling share price and this is what is happening here. Price is king, and is always right, not flu.

[billthebank] 21/9/2018 09:39

The real problem is that if the flu v joint partner/licencing partner is announced it will be too late to reap the full benefits as it will catapult the share price Pays your money and takes your choice. Now valued at £50M

[discojames] 21/9/2018 08:59

a1samu, you just post rubbish all day without any substance whatsoever. Care to explain why the flu comments on this board are 'not relevant to this company'?

[a1samu] 21/9/2018 08:55

But wrong, there is no end to the slide in this share price, because there is nothing coming to hold it up. I have never heard so much rubbish about flue etc than on this thread, absolutely unhelpful and clearly not applicable to this dithering company. Sp reaction is not disappointing, but real for there is no value and nothing is being created, whatever else anybody says for in the end price is real.

[billthebank] 21/9/2018 08:54

I have listened to Trevor on pro active and the bottom line here is HVO have an amazing opportunity to metamorphose with pro v.All about finding that licensing partner. Trevor is not an effervescent man who would ever overstate the co position.

News by end of the year 're mosquito bite stage 1

Cash flow positive in 2019

This new contract is valued at more than all the work they did in 2017.

Sp reaction disappointing but as I said all about flu v and we will just have to wait