Harland & Wolff Share Discussion Threads

[seagreen] 13/9/2023 19:14

JakNife was you long and distinguished Investment Banking career helping in the canteen at Merrill Lynch I rember a rather ratty chef during my 5 years there.If the expansion plans of Harl make sense then there will be no problem in raising the money.You have a margined bet on a spike on good news that they will not raise the finance.Very risky imho

[lopodop] 12/9/2023 21:13

For heavens sake stop behaving like a clown.
Who would not like to see HARL succeed unless of course wholly anti UK economic prosperity.
Right now one could be looking at a share value of 30p if HARL was skipping along.
Hence the concerns.
Stop cluttering up this board with drivel about shorters and focus on how to make this a world class entity eh.

[linesal2] 12/9/2023 19:03

It was shorters that said Island Magee would never get permission and it would only be a caravan site, shorters were also wrong on that one.

[linesal2] 12/9/2023 19:00

with the hundreds of companies the shorters attack, they are bound to get one right (law of averages), and how many have you been wrong on? I suppose you can't post that.

[linesal2] 12/9/2023 16:46

Been here for quite a few years and topped up on every dip, I was content with the plans for Island Mgee but the acquisition of Harland and Wolffe just at the time the UK was pulling up their socks to get manufacturing back in the UK was a masterstroke.
I remember the early days of JW wanting to go into the FTSE and I believe that will happen in time (5-10 years), You only have to search through the shorter's previous posts to understand they will use any tactic to lower a share price exaggeration being their main tact. I would like to be able to start drawing down in about 2027 so lots of time for me. DYOR

[seagreen] 12/9/2023 09:58

Onwards and upwards ignore the concert party of margined short sellers posting fake news.

I was requested to make a contribution and was shot down by the mob for making some clear signs of green shoots....

No surprise they are all on margin.....biting their nails LOL

[wiltowin] 12/9/2023 08:59

You should really get in here now before you miss out, you day traders rarely make substantial money and I've yet to meet a wealthy one. Good luck with the deramping as I want more at sub 10p.

[lopodop] 12/9/2023 07:40

And Groat’s TOMCO is shedding investors and share value. Compared to HARL it is a ‘nothing’; operation - so make up your minds about his chairmanship here.

[terminator101] 11/9/2023 20:43

You do know that it's not johns first rodeo at trying to run a maritime business. The last one crashed and burned after it drowned in debt, then John phoenixed it and crashed and burned it again. Seeing any parallels?

[ramlamb] 11/9/2023 15:45

wiltowin - If they had big orders coming in they would employ skilled welders / boilermakers not be using a government subsidised scheme to train apprentices. It's not a skill you learn overnight, there is as much theory as practical when training to be a welder, it takes a couple of years minimum. Good luck to the apprentices, I hope they find quality employment after their training.

Sadly HARL made 120 welders redundant earlier in the year from Methil and are now struggling to meet customer orders - the Cory barges - which are currently 5 months behind schedule.

[wiltowin] 11/9/2023 15:18

Doubled up, 75 new apprentices hired big orders about to made news I'd bet.

[seagreen] 11/9/2023 14:17

I have made my contribution

You guys are on margin following a tipster posting every second if you were convinced there would be no need for mob rule

Oh of course you are living on margin did I forget to mention that is why you disregard sensible contributions


I am a patient man I am happy

[loglorry1] 11/9/2023 13:50

Seagreen you are obviously a very clever and well qualified chap. However all this is massively over thinking it.

As you note they need capital. They are running out if cash and probably can't make payroll soon. How do they solve this?

[loglorry1] 11/9/2023 11:49

@seagreen all well and good but how then do you explain the house broker forecasts that show continued losses this year and next. If it was all down to large lumps of revenue about to be recognised swinging the company into operational profit then the broker would have been guided as such. Instead they have not.

Furthermore the company itself in its own accounts has stated over and over that it needs more working capital, has fully drawn the $100m loan and is long overdue a £200m financing which it needs to get in place to be a going concern.

In short this is not just down to when revenue is recognised - far from it.