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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Hargreaves Services Plc LSE:HSP London Ordinary Share GB00B0MTC970 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -26.00 -5.91% 414.00 414.00 425.00 432.00 397.00 432.00 120,491 16:35:04
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Support Services 204.8 14.4 50.8 8.1 134

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25/11/2020
22:12
1600 plots with permission in principle in 2017, I assume it is now full building permission = phase 1 (phase 2 would produce ~900 more homes on HSP land , but the land sales wouldn't happen until later in phase 1 & with firm planning permission, & acceptable sales of the phase 1 properties...) if sell 1600 plots (over X years !, not in 1 week) at £50,000/serviced plot (looks correct, see other post) that would be 80 million quid minus 15 million invested in site prep. in 2019 & 18. (& in prior years ?) cost of planning applics. ? cost of project support staff over X years ? if 25 million costs (25+10) then phps a profit of 80-25 =£55 million. And more HSP plots/land is available there. while noting that the approved plans include quite a highish % for open spaces & for cheap/subsidised houses (which I assume produce little/no profit for the builder or land seller) (only 12 miles from Edinburgh, cool & a fair amount of dual carriageway ( not motorway) & plan is for the site to have its own small train station (which would surely bump up the property/land values :-) ) versus cap. value of HSP of ~£70 million & HSP owns other housing/development projects (noting that a key factor from a shareholder's viewpoint imo is how long it takes to get paid for those projects & how high are the HSP costs during that time, the more years it takes then the profit from plot sales gets reduced by the cost of the HSP project support team & repeated planning application costs & ....)
smithie6
25/11/2020
22:09
"no where is perfect"? oh I dont know Portobello beach on a hot July.
netcurtains
25/11/2020
21:51
can't have everything ! or no where is perfect ! ;-)
smithie6
25/11/2020
21:48
You get a lot of Newcastle and Sunderland in Edinburgh too
netcurtains
25/11/2020
21:47
May 2019 Bellway paid £9 million for 10.8 acres not so far off 1million/acre how many acres has Hargreaves got left to sell ?? perhaps 200 homes, combined with another land sale of ~£1million ~ £50k/serviced plot average, with cheaper/subsidised homes being lower price/plot (~50) & the rest (~150) paying a higher price per plot. ----- in 2017 Hargreaves got permission for 1600 houses how many acres is that ? & how many acres left ?
smithie6
25/11/2020
21:39
netcurtains yes, & a lot of golf courses :-) & Edinburgh's not bad as well ! ..central garden area is rather nice in the summer of course (Princes Street Gardens) ---- but phps don't wear an England football strip or you risk problems ! (one youngster got beaten up in a shopping mall I recall)
smithie6
25/11/2020
21:37
how many plots has HSG got for the whole project ?
smithie6
25/11/2020
21:32
Some great seaside towns round there - take a look at "north Berwick" on google
netcurtains
25/11/2020
21:25
from the last prelim annual results "At the major Blindwells site near Edinburgh, completion of the first sales of fully serviced plots were on schedule to be recorded in May but have been delayed into the year ending 31 May 2021 by Covid-19 as all site works had to be suspended in late March. Site works recommenced in late June but at a slower pace as a result of Covid-19 safety precautions. GBP8.0m (2019: GBP7.0m) of infrastructure cost has been invested in the site during the year, which is included in Inventory in the Group Balance Sheet." (so, in 2 years £15 million has been invested in infrastructure costs phps that means roads, scheme sewers/gas etc, power cables etc hopefully that means that seeds have been sown & now its time to reap some harvest ======= Edinburgh is expensive for property with all the MPs at the Scottish Parliament, & their advisers & staff all the top law courts etc for Scotland & Scottish HQ offices so, there is demand in the commuter belt, & the option to have a garden & place to put a car
smithie6
25/11/2020
21:13
the proposed housing scheme that you are talking about, is it this one ?? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindwells which appears to be north of Tranent, & close to the coast road that goes east from Edinburgh
smithie6
25/11/2020
21:06
I understand that town/village has the highest density per m2, & turnover, for fish & chips shops anywhere in the world !!
smithie6
25/11/2020
17:32
thanks! It seems to be around here somewhere. Https://www.google.com/maps/@55.9433396,-2.9539881,15z?hl=en-GB
netcurtains
25/11/2020
17:06
Its close to a place called Tranent just South of Edinburgh, netcurtains. Not sure how much of it has been fully reinstated by now, but you might be able to identify it on google earth. I know I could find a big opencast I did some work on, in the desert, very easily on that, it stood out clearly, so you might be able to find it and follow preparation progress that way. PS. No surprise there CT!
muckshifter
25/11/2020
16:49
no answers yet Muckshifter
castleford tiger
25/11/2020
16:20
Thanks muckshifter I'll keep an eye out. If the site on google maps? Do you have a post code area?
netcurtains
25/11/2020
16:19
As I see it, the next share price mover here will be Blindwells. Completion of the sale of first two land parcels was held up by Covid delays, but should have been done late August / early September judging from the earlier schedule. The AGM statement a month ago said completion "shortly", so an announcement is probably imminent. If it isn't announced in the next few days, I'll be disappointed, and it might cause the share to drift down. If only the first, smaller plot attains completion I doubt it will do much, but if both completions are announced I think it will provide a good boost for the shares at the time when a "santa rally" could give it a further push. Interesting times anyway.
muckshifter
24/11/2020
10:49
Its your assets govern'or - they might be worth a few bob....
netcurtains
24/11/2020
08:31
Followed the director buying in here. HAT went absolutely nuts higher when a director bought alot less, and the way this moves historically, it also is capable of a similar type of move IF it can break through that 230 resistance mark.
sphere25
24/11/2020
07:32
Yes, agreed
terry236
24/11/2020
07:26
I would also characterise the Non-Exec Director's purchase as a large buy too (£85,000)
carcosa
24/11/2020
07:05
As if by magic, the bear point Conkers makes ref no director purchases is scrubbed off with a large buy from the chairman
terry236
23/11/2020
22:18
No wonder with what I bought again today. The over hang may of gone
castleford tiger
23/11/2020
22:12
Thanks Thewheeliedealer! HSP certainly had a nice finish.
netcurtains
23/11/2020
21:40
Hi all, My mate Peter @Conkers3 and myself did a ‘Twin Petes Investing’ Podcast a few days ago and part of our discussion includes HSP which Peter C3 thinks is looking pretty undervalued. We also chatted about loads of other Stocks and Ideas for research and did a particular bit about Luck vs Skill. We also discussed the outlook for Markets and as usual a fair bit of educational stuff with regards to Investing. Anyway, if you use Apple, Audioboom, Overcast or Spotify you can find it under the 'Conkers Corner' Channel (you want Podcast TPI 36) and you can find it on Soundcloud at the link below. It is also now on Youtube. I hope you enjoy it and find it useful, Cheers, WD @wheeliedealer hTTps://soundcloud.com/user-479955511/conkers3-wheeliedealer-36-market-bounce-winners-tm17-uls-hfd-gaw-purp-arw-reci-hsp-ai
thewheeliedealer
19/11/2020
08:04
Astrazenica / Oxford trial good news. House builders share prices rising strongly so land becomes more valuable again.
netcurtains
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