Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Flybe Group PLC LSE:FLYB London Ordinary Share GB00B4QMVR10 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.25p +0.70% 35.75p 35.00p 36.00p 35.75p 34.75p 35.75p 258,706 11:13:42
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Travel & Leisure 707.4 -19.9 -12.3 - 77.45

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
18/7/2017
17:12
someone in the know
phillis
18/7/2017
16:10
Just got of a flight Ext to Man rammed
toffeeman
18/7/2017
15:47
Or, it could be just someone making a purchase.
owenski
18/7/2017
15:35
another purchase by someone who well knows what is happening operationally
phillis
18/7/2017
12:06
· Long-haul markets remain strong with passenger numbers to the Middle East and East Asia growing by almost 10% and more than 5% respectively. Airlines on these routes are making the most of their slots by switching to larger aircraft and increasing their load factors. Travel to regional destinations also grew, with newcomer FlyBe increasing its domestic share and flying 22,000 more passengers to Scottish destinations this month. Above extract from Heathrow June traffic report.
standish11
18/7/2017
11:42
I think he was suggesting that larger airlines had recently had better share price performance than small ones. Even if that is universally true then correlation doesn't imply causality. To make a proper argument you have to show that there are network effects in either revenue or cost and that these are significant in comparison to the variability of other factors that define profitability.
dangersimpson2
18/7/2017
11:41
If you look at the share price charts of EZJ RYA and IAG they all go up with time. FLYB is the opposite. Those three all have enormous economies of scale in every element of their businesses. Size indeed matters
toffeeman
18/7/2017
11:35
Flybe actually traded at break even as part of the £20 mill loss was attributed to £6 mill IT upgrade and £13 mill USD revaluation loss so going forward with reduced fixed & variable cost from less planes and more owned than leased ,if they just stand still they are back into profit hopefully. That's plan A anyway.
sandoval
18/7/2017
11:04
I think Toffeeman was saying (sardonically perhaps) that the inverse is the case, i.e. the more Flybe expanded, and hoped to benefit from economies of scale, the worse off its bottom line actually became (hence the sell off in its SP).
guernseymoney
18/7/2017
10:44
If they are that clear feel free to name and quantify some of them :-)
dangersimpson2
18/7/2017
08:47
The answer to your question about economies of scale in the airline industry is shown in the header charts - rather clearly!
toffeeman
17/7/2017
22:05
But what economies of scale do airlines have? - some IT costs like running the website, maybe a bit of servicing, marketing, a few airport incentives. However in reality being part of a larger group will make little difference since the network effects are pretty limited compared to all the other factors. What will make Flybe profitable is there being enough mature Q400-suitable routes that have no air competitors. It's clear that some capacity reduction by giving back some leased planes as they come off lease will help but so will time. You simply can't start to fly a route That has no other air competition and expect profitability from day one. What Hammad did was commit to EBITDAR positive routes from day one which means that once you have the plane you are better off flying than grounding it. The problem was in his rush to build the company he built capacity too quickly in a market that subsequently weakened. All things being equal we will see load factor starting to increase in the next year or so just from the existing routes maturing and the capacity growth ending. That leased planes are being handed back with further enhance this assuming that the most unprofitable routes with the least potential are the ones to be culled.
dangersimpson2
17/7/2017
20:45
Code shares with other airlines at Heathrow should be announced shortly. I agree that the fleet reductions will make a huge difference to the bottom line.
mreasygoing
17/7/2017
20:41
The way to make Flybe profitable is reduce capacity which they finally can do. I don't like the way the company is starting to compete with others but will give new management benefit of the doubt on that front. I have a large holding and wouldn't consider selling under 100p unless forced....we all have dreams.
sandoval
17/7/2017
18:23
I disagree - the only way of making FLYB profitable is to be part of a much larger airline and they cannot acquire so must be acquired. That was the reason for me purchasing my smallholding. If you are a long term investor from before 2015, I doubt you will ever see a positive return - but from 34p - I just might
toffeeman
17/7/2017
17:05
Would be very disappointed if the new CEO sold out so soon. Even a decent takeover premium would mean selling out at historic lows. They've done the hard lifting getting the fleet size sorted and by focusing on their core competitive advantage which is flying Q400's on routes where there is little or no competition since they are too short to profitably run jets. The additional capacity added by the previous CEO (too aggressively it turned out as the market weakened hence why he got the chop) should now be starting to mature (it takes time for people to get used to routes being available and booking those instead of taking the train/driving.) The time to sell is when everything is firing on all cylinders and everybody loves the company not now!
dangersimpson2
16/7/2017
13:00
Great article, thank you for posting.
guernseymoney
16/7/2017
12:00
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&;cd=10&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwir-Iik0o3VAhXFIcAKHQTFD4MQqUMIWjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.belfasttelegraph.co.uk%2Fbusiness%2Fnews%2Fflybe-boss-looking-for-more-partnerships-with-international-carriers-35935313.html&usg=AFQjCNHv4ke-eJ6WLpOpEBAMKZKiR-Vf1w
sandoval
11/7/2017
15:30
EZY is three flights a week for 13 weeks
jerseyman1
11/7/2017
13:42
Ezj flying out of southampton to Geneva this winter possibly flybe reducing winter flights there?
rolo7
11/7/2017
12:29
Hmmmm Birmingham to Hamburg - a case of the Wellington Boot Problem?? I paid 34.4 so feeling a tad dispirited but glad I wasn't tempted before - but I could still loose the lot if she goes under ):
toffeeman
11/7/2017
12:12
I see they just started Birmingham to Hamburg with no competition on direct flights.
sandoval
11/7/2017
12:05
@steveglobal - I like the thought of that! Fingers crossed. I'd be keen to know how their recent investors roadshow went - not much on the web about it.
guernseymoney
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