Fisher (james) & Sons Share Discussion Threads

[elsa7878] 20/12/2021 12:04

Err no. It's computer driven trading. Mostly AT trades.

[roddiemac2] 20/12/2021 11:28

For what it is worth, at approximately 10.45 this morning There had been about 46,000 shares traded in about 100 separate trades.( average=460 shares ).It looks like short term traders taking losses.

[soleman1] 20/12/2021 10:58

I'm also a thg holder, nice to see that turn around, hopefully the same here.

[hybrasil] 20/12/2021 10:28

dev80

I don't think so unless the news is awful.

I plan on buying at £2 if it get there. In my book I am happy at the risk/reward levels there. I fully accept the others view that this is speculation.

I am a holder of THG (which like this company fell spectacularly from grace) and which is up 15% today

I also bought VIC (when it plummeted) and I am also in positive territory

Likewise Shearwater Group (swg) which is going well, as well.

[soleman1] 20/12/2021 10:26

Seems like peak pessimism to me, have bought again. Don't think it's been this low since the nineties but don't quote me on that!

[dev80] 20/12/2021 10:14

By the time ive done any analysis this would have dropped another 10%. Poor management and on the verge of a offering. It will be a pound soon

[roddiemac2] 20/12/2021 09:34

dev80

Thank you for your in depth analysis.

[dev80] 20/12/2021 09:27

Horrible stock. Death spiral

[bouleversee] 17/12/2021 12:18

I see fsj appointed a new ned yesterday. She presumably thought they had a future.

[professor john koestler] 17/12/2021 11:21

roddie

I was building a position and shortly after the latest update I decided to sell out at a small loss to see what happens as the COVID situation and recovery become clearer.

If you are interested in other short-term opportunities with the cash may I recommend Ultra Electronics. It is being bought out at £35 a share with the sale due to complete by the end of Q1 next year. If you buy in today your return is roughly 11.5%: That is not a Bond Equivalent Rate it is your real return. Of course the risks are that takeover doesn't go through (and the price drops closer to pre bid) but it is effectively Cobham (backed by finance) so has a much higher chance than just a finance house. The other risk is opportunity cost in recovering markets but you should be able to sell out for very little loss if a better opportunity does come along.

A typical Buffett Event Arbitrage opportunity as it were. :)

I have quite a bit held in Ultra and Meggitt, both under offer, which are set to give me real rates of return between 8.5% and 12.5% real return - annualised returns are a lot higher.

[dev80] 17/12/2021 11:20

I would wait for a raise here. Then buy

[roddiemac2] 17/12/2021 11:06

"Buy in now you are speculating, not investing."---Agreed

[roddiemac2] 17/12/2021 11:02

hybrasil,

If the news is positive , I may be tempted to buy more, but I don`t know what price the shares will go to in that scenario. My stance is tempered by the fact that I currently have a large holding.I will make a judgement if and when there is more news.

[professor john koestler] 17/12/2021 10:47

No one should be a buyer at all ATM. You cannot price the company correctly. When the news comes through that makes the future more certain you will have plenty of time to buy in at a good price. Buy in now you are speculating, not investing.

[hybrasil] 17/12/2021 10:44

roddie

Would you be a buyer at the present price (£3 approx)?

[roddiemac2] 17/12/2021 10:29

hyrasil,

Your stance is very sensible. Wait for some indication of progress in the right direction. However,if news is not good,the shares may well go to £2,--but why then would you buy them? If news is positive,it is probable that you will have to pay more than £2-------?--(just a thought.)

The CEO, like anyone else, can`t be expected to call the bottom of the market in these shares. It is enough that he obviously considers he got a good price , with the long term in mind.

[hybrasil] 16/12/2021 19:11

Roddie

I genuinely did not mean to be inane. If our CEO invested today he would have three times the number of shares he holds!

I have been following this co for a long time. I like maritime companies ( Made a lot of money in Braemar recently).

The issue is the trading statement. I would like to buy here and for me risk /reward is good at £2 or thereabouts. Things may not be as bad as they sound but I need to know how bad if I were to pay higher than £2

[buywell3] 15/12/2021 21:39

Charts Rule ok



buywell3 25 Oct '21 - 21:24 - 2246 of 2398 Edit

2 bigger sells after close

Over 100k's worth

Longer Term Holders are not best pleased with the update imo

Many of them are Institutions




free stock charts from uk.advfn.com

[professor john koestler] 15/12/2021 17:48

Perhaps we should all buy Dork Coin.

[professor john koestler] 15/12/2021 17:47

Then again a paper loss may turn into an even greater paper loss or a real one.

You never know in the crony capitalist CASINO of life.

[roddiemac2] 15/12/2021 17:45

hybrasil,#

A paper loss may well turn into a large profit in the fullness of time. Don`t try to compete with the Professor of inanities above.

[professor john koestler] 15/12/2021 16:32

Going..............down!


Say goodbye to your savings!


Bye bye savings.



Well, you accept the capitalist system don't you?

Swallow it.

LOL!

[xxxxxy] 15/12/2021 15:56

And maybe 2 in this period, but that reflects the politics rather than the company. My thoughts only.Reality is not always nice territory.I am for this company. But will only go in with new money, so got to be real careful.