Diversified Energy Share Discussion Threads

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 12:21

Anyway can only claim it as theory

Back to market

Fkd after Friday, long term

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 12:20

Whilst cant evidence it, I do think I've often seen such set up albeit moreso funds creating new instruments to transfer from city to other

Wouldnt surprise me though

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 12:17

Sometimes I wonder was this listed just to give others exit asset sells they couldn't offload elsewhere

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 12:15

I get the shorters. Aquisitions are on forecasted diminishing returns for the foreseeable in the industry . Waste of money.

Unless a major event happens maybe but cant bank on it

Still, too heavy a shor just for that

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 12:12

Really, that phase needs to be made below that block. It's not there currently .

That's the danger. Seem such shares go to 0.something due to this

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 12:07

I can assure you of one thing in tbe future. The short buy back will only occur at X block because the loaners don't want them off block . Just the way it is, Coincidence or arranged . Whichever

870s to 810s is big

If it doesn't happen there, a big big percentage down to next phase

And that lpwer phase makes sense for both right now imo

See anyway . Only time reveals what speculation is fact

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 12:04

So let's say you are right in the long run.

What's the price difference between the then and dealing with the now?

Could be huge

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 12:02

Who knows. Could be the case for all I know

The problem is if it all starts at 50 or 100p

Shorters are still too heavy for all the bad news to have played out

Something else is expected and its horrific

They can be wrong of course. As often as the bulls really. But very very rare for this weight to be wrong

It's the bull pessimism on the medium term that loans stock to shorters

[kaos3] 27/8/2024 11:54

i find bellow chart interesting

it is a charT comparing BUR against DEC after NEW listing in USA

my point is - SITUATION is not exactly DEC specific, but what a US listing brings with it - a short attack published in the media first, then powerful shorting for a long time, to slowly then recovering after shorters get what they are after. it also includes getting INCLUSION into different indexes, ETFs forced buying and so on



correlation is high despite completely different businesses. i expected it, played it and keeping me stoic

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 11:22

Blackrock are notorious buyers for shorting control btw

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 11:20

So currently, they are holding for pay that starts again well sub 900

I doubt they are only targeting 860s

Sub 500s at least

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 11:17

Must also ponder this re short weight

The adjustment down on ex div date doesn't pay them.. zero

So they are only interested in after the adjustment down. In fact, they have to pay a fair whack

Pretty heavy for that

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 11:15

You needed to hold 1044s 'after' ex div

Its wholly fkd

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 11:13

You rarely see such a negative 2 months

Even worse , it's a brutal call back to long term trend

Dudes, sub 500 coming. Never mind 860s etc

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 11:10

Who gets the div on loaned out stock?

[stevensupertrader] 27/8/2024 11:01

DEc will definitely over £10 very soon either later this afternoon or tomorrow before ex div on 29th Aug .
Institutions are not shorting but buying.

[justiceforthemany] 27/8/2024 10:47

Black rock increasing their stake.

[putinaire] 27/8/2024 09:52

You must be all disappointed today . Many expected a better Open before collapse

You cant gauge shorts until 860s minimum. Maybe 810s

Reducing shorts isn't always a marker anyway . Many examples such as metro bank, around 3200 to 30p

So it has a bit more ro drop to gauge shorts. They may get more bearish too

[kaos3] 27/8/2024 07:22

i speculate that after ex divi the share price will be strongly pushed down ... even bellow 900 p - to get shorts off the hook

ie we will be seing this price levels for some time

but we will never get a drastic drop either ... because at low levels shorts will be quantity buyer

[skinny] 27/8/2024 07:14

Your filter list must be the same as mine :-)

[ming da merciless] 26/8/2024 20:44

Be bigger volumn tomorrow

[justiceforthemany] 26/8/2024 20:27

Closed UP +3% in the States on good volume.

[ming da merciless] 26/8/2024 20:07

And that's in B&W from some of the sellers

[ming da merciless] 26/8/2024 20:06

I'm not sure why you would go on an aquisition spree as all you are doing is buying from those whom sell based on long range forecasts for prices