Cloudified Share Discussion Threads

[frak] 10/11/2015 21:50

DW.. I think the notice period for a 'special resolution' and EGM is 2 weeks! A 'special notice' is 4 weeks but this can only be given by a shareholder(s) and not the company! Special resolutions require 75% of the vote.

[daddy warbucks] 10/11/2015 20:15

We may get an inkling within a week or so, based on each side reading the others final submissions.

[daddy warbucks] 10/11/2015 19:26

Can I just add that if a settlement is forthcoming, it would need to be voted on, which would require a four week notice period prior to any meeting. Why have an AGM in Ealy December then a general meeting a few weeks later?

[frak] 08/11/2015 18:49

My pleasure DW.. Fingers crossed!

[daddy warbucks] 08/11/2015 16:50

Many thanks Frak. Apologies for delay in replying, have just got back on the site.As you say very interesting. Let's hope Churchill doesn't break the mould! ;0)

[frak] 08/11/2015 09:51

TRIBUNNEWS.COM, JAKARTA - Expert in Constitutional Law, Yusril Mahendra, admitted he did not have too much experience in dealing with the issue of the extension of the working contract mining company.
PT Freeport contract of work, for example.
Yusril said that during this time he was only involved International treaties, such as conventions against corruption world.
However Yusril see, Indonesia often suffered defeat at the International Arbitration Court, especially if it involves a contractual agreement with the foreign.
"All the agreements which by law we are always weak. Especially when dealing with a stranger we always lose, including if submitted to the Court of International Arbitration. Almost all contracts with foreign if brought to trial arbritrase Indonesia lost," said Yusril in Jakarta, Friday (6 / 11/2015).
Based on the weakness of the contracts submitted to the Court of Arbitration for this, Yusril asked President Joko Widodo more cautious. Primarily the work of Freeport's contract extension.
According to Yusril, the President must be firm in this regard.
"If for pernjaijan work contract carefully, especially later brought to trial arbirtase," said Yusril.
In addition, Yusril said, the country must also use the services of a reliable lawyer in resolving renew the contract between the government of Indonesia together with foreign parties.
"It should be a good lawyer lease, because of the first in Kemenkumham, Attorney who as a lawyer, the state is weak," said Yusril.

[daddy warbucks] 08/11/2015 09:38

FrakDo you have access to a translated version please.

[frak] 07/11/2015 13:16

Interesting admission

hxxp://www.tribunnews.com/bisnis/2015/11/06/soal-freeport-yusril-sebut-indonesia-lemah-hadapi-asing

[debbiegee] 06/11/2015 13:09

Pursuant to the Parties’ agreement, the second post-hearing brief shall be filed on
9 November 2015. It shall append no new documents, except for legal authorities
strictly in rebuttal of those filed with the other Party’s first post-hearing brief or except
with prior leave of the Tribunal.

[andy] 06/11/2015 08:33

I'm not going to start the process of elimination, all I will say is the person concerned is very relevant.

I had expected a more optimistic outlook so was disappointed with the reply to my question.

[bones30] 05/11/2015 13:22

If you buy them back in the ISA then irrelevant to CGT, I think. i.e. it's Bed and ISA not Bed and breakfasting.

If they had some outside ISA and sell at a loss they crystalise a loss that can be used to offset tax on other crystalised gains outside the ISA.

[dave444] 05/11/2015 10:53

rettah is correct!

[daddy warbucks] 05/11/2015 07:30

Many thanks rettah.

[rettah] 04/11/2015 22:51

If you bed and ISA shares the sale of the shares outside the ISA will be subject to capital gains or loss. The 30 day rule does not apply.

[daddy warbucks] 04/11/2015 18:57

I got slightly sidetracked earlier. Does anyone think someone switching their holding into an ISA at this particular time, is down to them believing an OOC may be close?

[daddy warbucks] 04/11/2015 16:20

As I said, I don't know if this applies to bed and ISA's.

[daddy warbucks] 04/11/2015 16:19

Taken from HMRC website...CG13370 - Bed and breakfasting: shares and securitiesThe bed and breakfast deal you are most likely to see in practice is the sale and repurchase of shares. The share identification rules mean that the disposal and repurchase must not take place on the same day. This is because TCGA92/S105 (1)(b) matches disposals first against acquisitions made on the same day, including acquisitions made after the disposal(1)(b), see CG51560 (CGT) and CG51610 (Corporation Tax)+. So even if there was a disposal, a reacquisition of the shares on the same day would not give rise to any significant gain or loss.The capital gains tax rules also match a disposal of shares with any acquisition in the following 30 days. See CG51560.Note that the share identification rules apply to all assets that usually dealt in without having to identify the individual asset. See CG51500.Where there is an agreement to buy back the shares at the time of disposal then the repo rules may mean that there is no disposal at all for capital gains purposes, see CG13360.Home | Main Contents | Manual ContentsPrevious Page | Top | Menu

[p@] 04/11/2015 16:01

also if you sell and then buy back cheaper within a month,you are deemed not to have sold!

[p@] 04/11/2015 15:59

If you sell before April 5 and then buy back in the next tax year in April I would have thought you would get away with it?