Ceres Power Share Discussion Threads

[ben chod] 26/7/2017 20:06

Isee kryten on the news putting his views across on the petroldiesel ban 2040 waitaminute wasnt philcaldwell cajoling kryten over some steelcells at the Horsham plant

[rosejs2] 26/7/2017 08:29

Phil Caldwell, Ceres Power's Chief Executive Officer said:
"We are delighted to be working with Nissan and M-Solv to enable an all-electric vehicle with a longer range and shorter refuelling time and to help cut vehicle emissions globally. In addition, this project broadens the applications for Ceres Power's SteelCell into the automotive industry as well using alternative fuels such as biofuels."

[tomhilton] 26/7/2017 08:11

And in today's news they'll stop all combustion engined passenger car and van sales in 2040! Where are these people going to charge up? Not even McKinsey or Bloomberg future predictions show 2040 as >70% EV and plateau'd. This is posturing, but at least it brings the right emphasis for Ceres. Does anybody know if they are partnering with a vehicle manufacturer to use FC as a range extender?

[ben chod] 25/7/2017 17:42

thereisasense of dejavu in this as back intheday "world leading” and "unique properties" were touted aboutby tonyblair in his climate changespeech

[rosejs2] 24/7/2017 10:23

The first phase of a four-year £246m Government investment into battery technology is being launched to make batteries more accessible and affordable.

Business and Energy Secretary Greg Clark will unveil details of the first phase, known as the Faraday Challenge, on Monday.

This will include a £45m competition to establish a centre for battery research which he says will help make the UK a world leader in the design, development and manufacture of electric batteries.

This will be spearheaded by the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council (EPSRC) to bring the best minds and facilities together to create a 'battery institute'.

A three-month consultation earlier this year on an industrial strategy to increase UK productivity and growth attracted more than 1,900 written responses from businesses and organisations.

A shift to cleaner energy and technologies such as electric cars has made the design, development and manufacture of batteries a top industrial priority.

The long-term vision also includes creating giant battery facilities around the National Grid to store excess wind and solar energy for when demand rises.

[dozey3] 24/7/2017 08:43

Sorry, got carried away. Sincere apologies to all ten-year-old schoolchildren.

[dozey3] 24/7/2017 08:40

Just heard 'Today' programme. Talked like a ten-year-old schoolchild as if solar panels were a new innovation and large batteries something only thought about overseas. No mention of British developments, grid resilience, AI. Presenter had done no homework - Arts degree no doubt. So disappointing.

[muffinhead] 23/7/2017 21:16

Personally I think the future is hybrid vehicles rather than pure electrical. The idea of standing around in the rain with a cable hanging from the car to a kerbside charger is dangerous. In some countries you will have your car stolen at knifepoint. Women will want a fuel cell generating electricity as a range extender for convenience and long trips, while plugging in at home securely.

Nissan unveils world's first Solid-Oxide Fuel Cell vehicle...prototype vehicle converts bi-ethanol to hydrogen and the hydrogen is used by the fuel cell
Cruising range of 600 kilometers!!!



Ceres fuel cell works with natural gas, bio-fuels and hydrogen explained 2mins into video
No wonder Nissan is working with Ceres


Ceres: Enabling Electric Vehicles to go the distance

[muffinhead] 23/7/2017 20:32

I am hopeful Cummins makes something of Ceres fuel cells for data centres


I have been looking at the Cummins website. They make a range of residential generators. The efficiency of the fuel cell would be a huge market advantage for Cummins imo

[pottermagic2310] 23/7/2017 20:22

Agreed Rosey & Dozey

[dozey3] 23/7/2017 14:31

Well I hope the business secretary has heard of CWR and also RED with its vanadium flow storage, and doesn't get suckered by the first Chinese or Japanese company to make exaggerated claims. I sometimes wonder if British governments (of whichever hue) take our medium/long-term interests into account. I'm long both of these BTW.

[rosejs2] 23/7/2017 12:21

From today's Daily Mail.... This just might be the breakthrough that Ceres need to confirm its technological superiority..

Giant rechargeable batteries could soon be installed in Britain to aid green energy facilities.
The business secretary Greg Clark is expected to announce plans this week to install the batteries near wind and solar panel farms to help the energy resources continue to supply households when demand increases.


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[muffinhead] 07/7/2017 14:45

Accumulated losses (CONSOLIDATED STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION...As at 31 December 2016) £104 million
I am not an accountant but assume the accumulated losses will become useful at some stage for offsetting against tax? Ceres would be pocket change for one of "committed itself to signing five global engineering companies as customers in joint development agreements by the end of 2017 and being in two launch programmes with OEM partners by the end of 2018"



About £110 million accumulated losses and £16million cash June 2017... more than current market capitalisation.

I have no idea what the fuel cell IP is worth

[cerrito] 04/7/2017 12:18

I see that CWR are half following the example of ITM and ditching Zeus: ITM ditched them completely for Investec and CWR still keep them on as a joint broker.

[tomhilton] 28/6/2017 10:18

We could still get closer to 10 depending on the news flow. I entered at 7p so very happy for it to fall back temporarily for me to buy more.

[pierre oreilly] 28/6/2017 09:48

Bought my second lot today. Great rns a cou7ple of weeks ago, very positive and points to sales and revenues picking up, with further jvs coming to fruition. Just waited a couple of weeks for the euphoria to be taken out of the price, so today looks the ideal time for a further slice to me.

[gnnmartin] 19/6/2017 20:08

There was an encouraging trading update last Tuesday.

[dozey3] 19/6/2017 18:26

The share price seems to be up by a third in the last week or so and yet this board is like the Marie Celeste. Is there any good reason for the surge other than that it was seriously undervalued before?

[tonsil] 16/6/2017 18:01

I foresee the day when these are valued in pounds once again. Early 2020's I would say.

[mog] 16/6/2017 15:25

It's been a while since I held these (when they were pounds rather than pence :) ) but the chart breakout has got my attention. The market cap is about £120m at 12p, turnover has just doubled to £4m, quite a price to sales ratio, has anyone done some numbers showing this will be £100m's or £1bn's turnover at some stage, or is it "finger in the air"

[tonsil] 16/6/2017 14:56

With their steel cell design Ceres can be the ARM of fuel cell providers. Even if big companies start off with PM catalysts they can still switch to the steel cell model as cost pressures grow.

[pugugly] 16/6/2017 13:38

Could first mover advatage have been lost ? Cannot find any reference to Panasonic being one of our partners.

[tomhilton] 16/6/2017 10:18

12p and rising

[scrutable] 14/6/2017 12:15

CWR has already announced end year 2017 for the commercial launch of a CHP device for businesses, That could be KD Navien. It could equally well be the project running somewhat later to a conclusion for something similar for domestic use in 2018.

The full year results for the FY ending June 30 are likely to be more informative.
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