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[jan-mar] 06/2/2023 13:30

risk of losing money rapidly due to leverage. 76% of retail investor accounts lose money when trading spread bets and CFDs with this provider. You should consider whether you understand how spread bets and CFDs work, and whether you can afford to take the high risk of losing

[pierre oreilly] 06/2/2023 12:32

Trader, Your desire to get others to believe your claims shows quite an inferiority complex and a rather puerile attitude. Not sure how important it is for you to convince others compared to convincing yourself.Pontypridd poly?

[smurfy2001] 06/2/2023 12:19

YOU are the numpty that said you need £250K to trade. This is FALSE. I simply provided a reference disproving this, believe it or not.

[trader465] 06/2/2023 12:13

I suggest you send $7000 to Thailand then. Why do you think Kreil moved his online video selling shop to Thailand where financial regulation is questionable at best?

[trader465] 06/2/2023 12:03

Anton Kreil SCAM? Institute of Trading and Portfolio Management REVIEW [2022]

[trader465] 06/2/2023 11:59

kasamavic - I’m not at my screens at the moment and can’t search the document for verification of the exact latest figure. Simply divide the client funds by number of clients and you get the number for 2022.

Smurf - are you sure you are Smurf rather than a clown? I think the latter.

You have just confirmed that Anton Kreil is a Tv and social media personality, he is not a trader and never has been.

Watch the YouTube video I posted for his history. Even the link you posted confirms he is no longer in a role requiring regulatory approval and hasn’t been since 2014; that’s because he sells trading videos from Thailand to gullible idiots like you. Furthermore, he has not been in a role requiring regulatory approval since 2014, the link you posted also confirms he has never been a trader and hasn’t been able to hold down a job for more than 3 years. Go send $7,000 to Thailand for one of his video courses and become a millionaire trader is what I suggest you do. Idiot.

[kasamavic] 06/2/2023 10:44

You've "forgot" to comment on the first part of Smurfys post.

[trader465] 06/2/2023 09:58

smurfy - Anton Kreil has recently moved to a rented house quite near to me, I have see him around Phuket restaurants a few times and he certainly doesn’t live the lifestyle he portrays on social media to unsuspecting gullible clowns such as yourself. He’s exactly the type I referred to in my previous post. He’s a failed trader with no verified trading results who was fired from his job for making huge losses, he now makes a living selling trading courses for $3000 and $7000 to unsuspecting gullible clowns such as yourself rather than actually trading. Theres 100’s of others all over social media looking for gullible clowns like you. Read the independent reviews instead of fake reviews and watching fake videos of alleged success made by ITPM themselves.

Anton Kreil Review. Is Institute of Trading and Portfolio Management a SCAM?


The total cost of the 3 month mentoring program is USD 7001 which consist of only 12 mentoring sessions. The session is usually around 30min or less if I have no question. Go or no go to put on a trade simply based on simple technical indicators. No addition insight/value given on the trades. I have lost an additional of about USD3000 by following the mentor recommendation on the trades



Do yourself a favor, pay no attention to social media “gurus” showing fantasy lifestyles of helicopters and Lamborghinis. If you think you can make a living trading with an account of less than £250k go and try, I almost guarantee you’ll fail due to being undercapitalised.

The top 20 best performing hedge funds in the world have 3 year annualized return of between 11% and 40%.


If you make 20% a year “consistently” you are doing very very well. That equates £50k salary on a £250k account, £20k salary on a £100k account, and £2k salary on a £10k account.

[trader465] 06/2/2023 06:55

Pierre - here’s the trading results of a friend of mine. Over a 400 trade period he lost 274 trades and only won 126 trades but made an overall profit by using a low risk strategy and minimising loss size. Wining more times than losing isn’t important, it’s keeping the losses small which is important. Limit the downside by keeping losses small and leave the upside unlimited. Most newbies do the opposite, they cap the winners and hold onto the losers, which usually results in huge losses.

[trader465] 06/2/2023 05:50

Pierre - did you know the average IG index account balance is just £1300? That alone suggests most accounts are hugely undercapitalised, and therefore very high risk, hence why so many amateur/newbie traders lose all their money.

In addition to being undercapitalised most armature/newbie traders have no concept of risk management. They simply “bet” too large a percentage of account balance using leverage (money borrowed from the platform provider). Another reason the figure is high amongst spread bettors is simply lack of knowledge, perhaps much like yourself.

I trade mostly via ISA’s and trading accounts where I buy a small percentage of my account balance and actually own the underlying instruments in the market, so I avoid high risk leverage.

Example 1:
A professional trader with a £250k account using a dynamic position sizing rule of 2% and maximum loss rule of 0.2% would take a £5000 position (2% of £250k). The trade moves 10% against him and he gets stopped out for a loss of 10%. The overall loss to account is therefore just 0.2% resulting in an account balance of £249500. His next position (2% of account) would therefore be £4990 and so on. In winning streaks the dynamic position size rule increases positions, and in losing streaks the dynamic position size rule reduces positions. Trading in this way would make it very difficult and take a very very long time to lose all his money.

Example 2:
An amateur/newbie trader with a £1300 IG spread bet account and no concept of risk management “bets” £10 per point on a £5 stock. Unknowingly to him, his position size/exposure is therefore £5000 or huge 384% of account. The trade moves against him and he gets stopped out for the same 10% loss as the professional. The overall loss is 38% of account resulting in an account balance of £800. The risk is therefore a huge 190 times more than the 0.2% risk of the professional trader in example 1.

I suggest you try this audio book, “Trading For Dummies” by Michael Griffis:

[tradejunkie2] 05/2/2023 21:27

Hey guys, l took a dump over board last night. Plop into the sea.

Love cruising!

[pierre oreilly] 05/2/2023 21:21

Could you post where I said all traders lose money? Tia.The trading platform suppliers, not me, say 80% of traders lose everything they deposit. They have a legal liability to inform everyone wanting to open a trading account of those stats.I suggest you inform the regulator that the platform suppliers are lying because you read advfn and all the traders there, including your goodself, make zillions trading. Well 30 quid in your case as you once posted after a couple of months of trading.

[sambuca] 05/2/2023 18:53

Pierre
I put the point wrongly in 5288 by using a lower entry point than the one in the chart so lets use the chart as used in the magazine so buy in February 2022 at $15 hold for a year and the share price is $7.75 a bad buy round figures a 50% loss but if you had sold in August you would have made a 50% gain, 7 months 50% gain shown in black and white no retrospect no crystal ball just fact and this is how you say all traders loose money.

Sam

[boliviana] 05/2/2023 10:41

It looks like the lows are now behind us at long last 😊

[kasamavic] 03/2/2023 23:40

I'll leave this one here from the FRES thread. Posted by someone else.Hows the £30 fres coming along Numptytrader465?- been 6.5 years now since you bought in at £17.95 and you've been predicting this since then... what a total tool PMSL Oh i tell a lie, there were other predictions from you along the way, £50 and £40 as well- and you've had several changes in moniker since then, but we all know who you are PMSL

[pierre oreilly] 03/2/2023 19:13

Are you for real sam?

Surely, even you know everyone is a retrospective billionaire. Maybe not.

If I'd have backed the winner of the 3:45 at doncaster then the 5;00 at epsom, then I'd have turned 1000 quid into 200k. Probably true, but useful for marketing to idiots only.

If I'd only invested a quid in the premium bond which won the million last week, i'd have turned a quid into a million!

I've only managed a 50k premium bond win, a couple of months ago in fact. I'd better do more research so I get the million prize.

And btw, the trading platform suppliers are talking about traders who open and pass the simplistic tests to be regarded as professional traders (just so the absolute dummies can't open an account). So, wrong again mate. Stick to lorry driving sam, don't try to open a trading account.

[sambuca] 03/2/2023 17:57

Pierre re 5281

You say 80pc of traders lose the lot (that's what the brokers tell us, by law when you open a trading account)they are not talking about hour traders day traders they are talking about all people who deal in stocks and shares.
I get moneyweek magazine every week and in it there is an article every week if only you invested in abc and be glad you did not buy xyz. Last week is a classic example it was be glad you didnt buy (nasdaq envx)if you look at the 1 year chart it shows that Feb 2022 start price $15 Jan 2023price $7.75 so your buy and hold not a good buy, now look at the middle of the chart not using the lowest price which was below $10 you could have brought in June for $11 and sold in August for $22.5 so more than 100% profit and they seem to think the same as you and call it a be glad you didnt buy probably 3 out of 5 publications of the be glad you didnt buy are all similar stories so I think should be titled be glad you didnt buy and hold.

Sam

[sambuca] 03/2/2023 17:36

trader re post 5269 he has spent 6k more than he has earned but if he spent the money on an extra room to his house which he now rents out for 3k pa in 30months he has paid off the loan and interest and so all future rent is profit to reduce his existing mortgage.

Sam

[trader465] 03/2/2023 16:21

That’s because you have your head buried in the sand. And don’t be peeping at my posts!

[jan-mar] 03/2/2023 16:19

Feel more relaxed already

[jan-mar] 03/2/2023 16:17

I'm just about to do that goodbye