Caplay Share Discussion Threads

[bobby c] 19/9/2006 20:35

Is that 500K a buy or a sell??

[leslas] 19/9/2006 14:15

Up 2 days on the trot???

[bbd2] 12/9/2006 19:05

Not sure, unless it was a sympathy vote for the decline in the PVTM price last night. Its up 9% today/tonight though.

[tolly1970] 12/9/2006 16:27

13:29:46 12-Sep-2006 0.61 46,587 284.18 Ordinary Trade
08:24:29 12-Sep-2006 0.55 267,876 1,473.32 Ordinary Trade
14:33:28 06-Sep-2006 0.80 13,000 104.00 Ordinary Trade
08:56:30 01-Sep-2006 0.80 21,800 174.40 Ordinary Trade
14:31:14 29-Aug-2006 0.80 25,159 201.27 Ordinary Trade
HOW CAN £1700 EFFECT THE PRICE SO MUCH..

[tolly1970] 07/9/2006 12:22

OH LOOK A BIT OF INTEREST AGAIN AND THE MM MARK IT DOWN..

[bbd2] 07/9/2006 11:22

What was the exercise price ?

[m1dge] 06/9/2006 17:45

I reckon we were looking to have a significant interest in PETS, but that TR has got the upper hand. we still have a respectible interest which at least backs up the share price, but also note that Leo Kniftons options increased significantly at the last option revision? We will see.

[bbd2] 06/9/2006 14:20

I wish I knew but I think our involvement with PVTM is a little deeper than just a shareholder. Don't forget out investment in Atlantic referred to in the Interims:

"The Company also negotiated a new licence as the Canadian Licensee of PVTM. As a result of these transactions the Company holds in aggregate 7,232,142 shares and 18.7 million options in PVTM and a 25% holding in Atlantic Corp the Canadian Licensee of PVTM".

[m1dge] 06/9/2006 12:23

On the basis of a price range of $10-$12, I think the CLY stake is worth about 1.33p/ share. BBD2 What involvement do you reckon CLY may have in the PETS revolution. I don't sense a particularly co-operative relationship between CLY and Terry R. I'm expecting them to sell their stake and move on reverse takeover through Leo Knifton?

[bbd2] 06/9/2006 10:11

I wonder if the Patent issue has been the cause of the delayed AMEX listing ie. no Patent = no IP = no business.

Perhaps listing news is finally around the corner and we can see a Whoosh in the CLY share price to reflect the value of our shares. We may also then get to know what part CLY has been pencilled in to play in the PETS revoulution !

Either way, at this price CLY is surely an attractive risk/reward punt, and those of us who have been here a while, will know how quickly she moves when she gets going.

[crosbie2] 06/9/2006 08:49

thanks bbd2

[m1dge] 06/9/2006 08:02

Aye news is looking better on PVTM front, starting to look like a real company!

[nodding] 06/9/2006 00:00

Thanks bbd

[2trying] 05/9/2006 18:42

great reading brother -

please tell my my CLY shares are about to rocket -

I could do with cheering up !!

[bbd2] 05/9/2006 18:24

A reminder about PETS:


Private Trading Systems Inc (i.e. PVTM) has two wholly owned european based subsidaries. These are Private Treaty Market plc (i.e. PTML) , based in London England, and PETS (Geneve) SA (i.e PTMS), based in Geneva. Between them PTML and PTMS own the PETS system


Financial instruments today are traded and settled through a variety of electronic platforms. Traditional systems are very disjointed, with the chain of events from the meeting of the market players through to actual delivery of the traded financial instruments being carried out on different systems operated by different organizations. Choice of platform often depends upon the type of instrument being traded or the type of market, with little overlap across markets. Different degrees of regulation in different jurisdictions and for different types of markets have led to even more disparate systems.

The overall market continues to grow, with over 7,000,000 individual securities available for electronic trading worldwide. New classes of securities emerge every year, one example being the rise in esoteric asset-backed securities over the last few years. New services, such as Arca Ex® or Instinet®, cover different parts of the trading lifecycle. We believe, however, that no one service that currently is available offers all the necessary components of the trading lifecycle in a seamless, integrated fashion.

Depending on the nature of the subject security and exchange, the total time taken from inception to completion of a trade can vary anywhere from a few hours to several days. Settlement time generally is measured in T+x notation, where x is the number of days from commencement of the trade until the trade is settled. Current trading systems commonly settle in T+1, T+3, or even T+7. This time to settle distorts the market, often prevents investors trading at a time of their choosing, and provides considerable opportunities for unfair market manipulation.

The financial markets have seen considerable change in recent years arising from technological development, principally in electronic trading. This has enabled markets to operate at a much faster rate than was previously feasible and has led to an expectation of continued improvement in the speed of transactions. PETS was designed to meet these expectations and our design criteria allowed no compromise. In speed of settlement we opted for the fastest possible, i.e. instantly. In availability we opted for as much as possible, i.e. 24 hours/day, 365 days per year. For breadth of coverage we decided to leave no security out, our system will be able to trade anything that can be handled electronically (and for paper based securities we have dematerialisation processes and agreements in place). In currency terms we will be able to handle any recognised currency in the world.

In short we believe that our system and processes provide a significant move forward in the operation of trading systems for financial instruments and that, while a number of participants in the financial markets operate trading systems, none offers an advanced integrated solution such as the solution we have developed. We therefore believe that in the fullness of time our system will become the premier trading system in the world.

[bbd2] 05/9/2006 18:10

Is PVTM finally starting to awake and going to make us some money ? Shares trading at $11.45 and Patent news just released:


Private Trading Systems, Inc. Files Full Definitive Patent for PETS Private Electronic Transaction Processing and Trading System Platform

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz., Sep 05, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Private Trading Systems, Inc. (Pink Sheets:PVTM) announces that it has completed filing the first full definitive patent for its PETS Private Electronic Transaction Processing and Trading System platform. Under the guidance of its patent counsel Kenyon and Kenyon, New York City, the full patent filing is an important stage in the development of the Company protecting its growing intellectual property. Further Company progress in intellectual property work anticipates additional patent, trade secret, trademark and copyright components.
When approved, the PETS platform will be used to trade Admiral Asset Group's Life Insurance Policies Settlement securities along with other securities products. Private Trading Systems recently signed its first agreement with Atlantic Asset Group Inc. to trade financial instruments in electronic form allowing for instantaneous clearance and settlement in real time.

About Kenyon & Kenyon

Kenyon & Kenyon, with over 200 specialist attorneys based in their offices in New York, Washington DC and Silicon Valley, is internationally recognized for its outstanding reputation in all fields of Intellectual Property law, with specific expertise including Intellectual Property development. Kenyon & Kenyon has done formative work in the design of information science patents and has for many years represented numerous international clients. Its practice is vertically integrated, incorporating all aspects of Intellectual Property law, including the design phase, implementation of IP strategies, advice for IP asset valuation, and coordination of the international defense of such properties.

About Private Trading Systems

Private Trading Systems, Inc. is developing turnkey exchanges for all types of assets to which a CINS/CUSIP number can be assigned or created. Private Trading Systems' PETS platform is a quick, effective and proprietary venue for secure, clean and efficient electronic transaction processing. It is designed to preclude specific forms of trading of any security for which it provides exchange services. The intention of the Company is to offer an "exchange environment access" through a unique design of exchange services and proprietary integration of functions that is not currently available anywhere in the world. Private Trading Systems has partnered with Societe Bancaire Privee (SBP) of Geneva, Switzerland as the Company's custodian and bank partner. The Swiss Federal Banking Commission must approve all exchanges taking place on Private Trading Systems prior to concluding any transaction.

[paddyfool] 30/8/2006 11:33

Yes I can biut i think you'll find that cly have too much of this already and do not have the cash to take up the options. If they did then the company stands or falls on PVTM. This being its onlt asset.

[grahamite2] 22/8/2006 09:13

tolly1970, it is dying very slowly.

Can anyone imagine the PVTM options would have been allowed to expire if there were any realistic hope of getting the new listing?

[flyingpicket] 22/8/2006 09:03

Tolly, obviously not!

[tolly1970] 17/8/2006 09:42

What's happening with this company. can anyone enlighten..

[paddyfool] 28/7/2006 17:43

I think you'll find that they cannot sell the PVTM shares at the moment. Also there would have been conditions on the sale of any shares aquired through the options. Like all of Terrys deals with PVTM you are tied in until the share hits amex.

[bond1] 28/7/2006 17:27

Two thoughts:

Perhaps they were not comfortable putting so much money into a Ramsden controlled company.


Secondly, this stock is highly illiquid, so maybe that was a consideration.