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Burford Capital Limited LSE:BUR London Ordinary Share GG00BMGYLN96 ORD NPV (DI)
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 595.00 592.00 593.00 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Equity Investment Instruments 276.0 170.1 73.1 8.5 1,301

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22/12/2020
16:49
Don't know why my posts aren't showing up... I guess we'll find out if Hansen's request for it to be bilateral is taken on board when she makes an order... she seemed very serious on the call and it wasn't pleasant listening.
1aconic
22/12/2020
16:25
As a minimum it should be a bi-lateral requirement. Is Preska being serious here?
lomax99
22/12/2020
15:34
Pretty bruising conference from a Burford perspective in the Petersen matter today.Basically,Judge Preska seems to want to get discovery of the Eskenasi's documents and depositions.Mark Hansen was saying it's within the Argentinian state's power to get the discovery while the defendants are saying you ( Burford) bought the claim so you should have seen to it that the Eskenasi's would be made available.Counsel for Burford saying they have no power over them,that they ( the Eskenasis) are so far down the pecking order of creditors that it doesn't matter,etc.Judge Preska making some worrying warnings ,eg,'you pays your money ,you takes your chances' and 'get it done,or they'll be consequences,but I'm not sure what they'll be',or words to that effect.Sounded ominous to me.Mr.Hansen asked that both sides be tasked with using their influence.According to him,Burford have no influence, Argentina are the ones with the power to get the discovery done.
djderry
21/12/2020
08:28
Makes no sense that it's down today - I get that there's a beta to global markets/wider economy greater than you might think but U.K. turning into Brexit zombie plagued island is of little relevance Should be up in £ share price due to fall in £/rise of dollar
williamcooper104
21/12/2020
08:19
There you go. Maybe Burford should delist from the UK completely. It's UK operations are minor, but the UK's self destructive path taints Burford and it's share price.
time_traveller
18/12/2020
11:04
Looking to add if they drop back to the £6.80's
lomax99
18/12/2020
10:16
I know Bogman. I was just being cynical about the constant focus on intraday share price movements.
jockthescot75
18/12/2020
08:32
Apologies for the futile post.. i thought maybe some news had come out on either the divorce case or the Petersen case.
dagoberia
18/12/2020
00:35
Think he is referring to the drop at the end of the day. Which seems to happen regular, as if the money makers are making a few quid on the side. It will regain those losses 1st thing.
bogman1
17/12/2020
22:40
Are you talking over the past few years and referencing Muddy Waters report late last year? ;) I just don’t see the relevance of talking through the share price movement over 2 hours for a very high beta share, where ultimately value will out in the medium & long run.
jockthescot75
17/12/2020
19:29
Does anyone have a clue about the big drop at the end? Cant find anything in the news.. i guess just the usual
dagoberia
16/12/2020
20:30
Won't question that using earnings is problematic. Still not entirely convinced a NAV approach doesn't miss half the story though... doing so in 2018 you'd have entirely missed the potential for new funding sources. You're also still ignoring outliers just as badly.
1aconic
16/12/2020
19:23
They're not stupid :)
williamcooper104
16/12/2020
19:21
And then bought them all back at 4-5 quid!
bogman1
16/12/2020
19:06
Lots of shareholders still think as most of what MW said was wrong the share price should thus be £20 At high teens - 4-5x NAV the share price was overvalued - hence why management sold 50 percent of their equity
williamcooper104
16/12/2020
18:57
Yep - it's either NAV or else a DCF computed NAV; which ought to be higher than book NAV A simple multiple on PE doesn't work, given outlier cases, lack of earning guidance, volatile cashflows
williamcooper104
16/12/2020
18:45
Maddox: a multiple of NAV makes more sense to me for getting a more realistic snapshot valuation of current investments over using straight NAV. But in terms of trying to determine some kind of fair value, there surely would need to be an additional step along the line of compounding that on a repeated basis then discounting back?
1aconic
16/12/2020
14:19
I don't subscribe to the notion that the share price need be anchored to historic NAV. A more realistic fundamental valuation of this firm would suggest a multiple of the NAV reflecting their highly attractive return on case investments.
maddox
16/12/2020
13:49
I believe the market is giving zero value to Peterson (or possibly even a negative value - market so concerned about this case that BUR would be worth more it it didn't exist, which is clearly non-sensical). Under normal circumstances I would expect BUR to trade at least 2x its book value given dominant market position and ability to generate very strong returns.
riverman77
16/12/2020
13:29
William: exactly. That's why I think Rar's lofty expectations can only be met over a several years or with an outlier result in a case e.g. peterson.
1aconic
16/12/2020
13:25
Lazg: Turns out I do have it to hand. Jeffries reported it as $773m in their last note so about £575m at current exchange rates.
1aconic
16/12/2020
13:23
It is exactly that old debate The market is valuing it like that at moment - the US listing hasn't changed that More years of showing realised gains at historic IRRs and eventually it might start trading on a PE basis
williamcooper104
16/12/2020
13:22
lazg: pretty sure it's in the region of 700m but don't have exact figures to hand either
1aconic
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