Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[lukead] 14/4/2017 16:55

Sm, it was bit. Now naturally I want as a holder, just like you, this share to go through that 100 and a lot further. You are ever so enthusiastic and I am extremely hopeful. I just want things to be rns'd to give real substance to any thoughts I may have.

[bobdown2] 14/4/2017 16:55

Nice result! No headaches is worth the entry cost...

[onedayrodders] 14/4/2017 16:46

Update on Wife's diet ... she is now on her Go Figure 5th week after re-ordering another 3 week bundle. She has lost over a stone and averaging -4lb a week.

She is going to the gym every other day and feeling great and still no migraines.

All good !

[shrewdmole] 14/4/2017 14:03

Luke

Apologies if you think it was ramptastic but I am making the point (as soh has stated) that we are at the start of the growth phase.

They have spent the last year or so making sure their ip is protected and then each variation and combination of strain they can link has been protected.

Only then have they started signing commercial deals.

So we have our own highly protected strains, our own technology patented that identifies the strains, go figure in shops, potential roll out in boots, Sacco as a European distribution partner for lpldl as an ingredient for others, our own cholesterol products on shelves next month, Tata, slim fast, csl, sugars progressing, skin ipo done and over subscribed.....there's more but we all know there's even more that soh will be working on regarding other continental partners but can't say due to non disclosure or sensitive price info.

Time for everyone to take a chill pill (maybe can find a strain for that?) and let this next phase happen over the coming weeks and months.

Like I say at some point we will get the attention of the major ii's and I think that will be once revenues are shown so probably next interims.

Sm

[kipper1960] 14/4/2017 12:56

In my opinion, SOH has made very few mistakes since the OPTI IPO - but I do think he has made a mistake is being so closely tied up the the whole TW/Shareprophets/Business Show thing. As far as I can see, that is biased heavily towards traders as opposed to L/T investors. You've only got to sign up for one of the free publications they offer and you get inundated with cold calls trying to sell all sorts of trading products and services. SOH has already made it clear that he wants OPTI PI's to be investors instead of traders (obviously), so why is he so closely connected with the TW machine? I believe (but we'll never know) that without that association the share price would have risen more slowly but steadily and would be higher than it is now. As Owen pointed out above, despite OPTI featuring prominently at the Business Show and winning some award, there was zero impact on share price I don't think TW and his cronies have much credibility amongst II's and L/T PI's and most of what they say is ignored by them.
I realise I may be setting myself up for being nominated as BB Moron of the month - do I care? Not one jot.

[bobdown2] 14/4/2017 12:19

Thanks parob. That is one clever ceo...

[bobdown2] 14/4/2017 11:47

We have garaunteed newsflow and we are about to see the emergence of revenue streams. The holy grail of the aim market. I have been buying the bottom of the dips courtesy of the traders. New partners are about to emerge who sell to their client base. Loads of revenue streams!! New products arriving shortly and cognitive ones on the horizon. Why should I wish to buy and sell when the ceo has promised to reward loyal shareholders. Traders will buy now and undoubtly exit on the May news but this tortoise is quite happy just to try to get more of his holding sheltered in this years Isa

[parob] 14/4/2017 11:39

In that Dragons Den video, SOH refers to OPTI being at the beginning of the growth phase, rather than the end of it.

He said the same thing during this recent interview:



Share talk - 22.15 mins/secs in

Interviewer: You've got a great space in front of you there regarding all the different products you have in the sense of obesity, cholesterol, diabetes, skincare - the opportunity is huge for you guys and the strategy you're putting in place with your team is clearly working given you raised £3M in a placing in 2014 and your share price is nearer to 75 and you haven't even scratched the surface really?

SOH: I'd agree, we are still at an early stage, I think there's far more potential there than we've achieved to date. Whilst the share price has gone up 10-fold, I see we're at the beginning of this rather than the end of this.

[owenmo] 14/4/2017 11:19

Also in my mailbox to-day came April 2017 issue PSL - wherein S. Keyes reports on lunch engagement with SOH. So my two pieces of Good Friday mail feature Opti and SBTX in tandem. TYhe dogs in the street are making noises; just when will the market wake up and reward us?

[owenmo] 14/4/2017 11:14

Now a week out of date and no market impact in any event; I didn't see it referenced anywhere, not to say it wasn't. Moneyweek issue Apr. 7th. under "Shares" - page dedicated to "Moneywise comprehensive guide to this week's share tips": Mini-feature - "IPO Watch": "AIM-listed healthcare firm has spun off its skincare division." Nothing else of particular note; simply that SkinBioTherapeutics warrants focus under "IPO watch" (and it's in stand-out colour)
Owenmo

[lukead] 14/4/2017 09:30

Re 22333, 'explode' 'on every high street' I am sure everyone loves to hear words like that, I'll just say words are all they are at present, ready for a tick down lol

[diamond fibre] 13/4/2017 16:17

There are three DIAMONDS, MY SELF, SPURS, AND OPTIE, OPPPSS, AND THE MISSES. DIAMOND.LOL

[shrewdmole] 13/4/2017 16:03

Risky

I disagree on that thinking I'm afraid.

My take is this:

We are at a £60-70m cap and the science is proven and vindicated by peers.
The market works on forward earnings.
Problem with that is Optis earnings will explode not just grow by 30%.
They are moving from being a market stall trader to being on every high street but soh isn't telling us every high street he might have a deal on.

Add in the market is driven by technical traders (I'm a gut instinct guy) and the chart will keep going to higher highs and higher lows so there will be trading for 10% gains on the way. BUT at some point the serious institutions and not the small ones, will want a piece.

Keep saying it but soh has more skin in the game than any of us so he will do right.
He also doesn't take a huge salary and actually kno s his stuff re the science and learnt lessons selling companies.

Verdict - trade if you want it's quite easy on Opti but at some point this could go up 50% on one Rns.

Tata, Sacco, more to come isn't small numbers.

[elrico] 13/4/2017 14:21

Risky - I have made the very point way back, in fact, I was the only one making the orderly exit strategy known before YSF declared a sale. The other point I was trying make and made a balls of it, it would appear....YSF with the help of Finncap could, in theory exit much quicker (should they chose) once the wider market woke up to the potential of OPTI. It is the perceived fear YSF will hold us back. In reality, this hasn't been the case.

[riskybusiness1] 13/4/2017 14:05

Elrico ysf will not dump on the market they have and will exit in a manner that does not disrupt the share price. The last exit is a prime example of matching a buyer to seller. The fact they sold at 65p whilst the share price was 70 and share price didn't budge was an example of this. Someone mentioned that they spoke with soh and that soh said he has been friends with the boss at ysf for over 30years. Sounds like they have very good accord.One thing could potentially be holding us back at these levels could be those who bought during the 75p placing last year. Think it was £1m worth and maybe seeing a slight profit after a year of consolidation/stagnation whatever you want to call it they want to exit on it. Hopefully these will fall in to surer hands and next leg up can begin again.

[elrico] 13/4/2017 12:42

Good points - Griffin. I would temper the expectations associated with slimbiome attributed to forward looking potential because the first anniversary has not yet past since commercialising it and even then it was with another startup company. It was not until the turn of the year we had indications of more stores with further in the pipeline. Tata will signal a ramp up in terms of slimbiome commercialising in new and much bigger markets. LP-LDL launch is 4 weeks away and probably not on the shelves until a few weeks past. It great to have a BOD that do what they say, it offers much confidence with each forward looking statement, though I suspect these need to be tempered a little, even though they are brimming with caveats.

[griffin81] 13/4/2017 12:05

Perhaps we could return to discussing OPTI?

The company is a couple of weeks away from launching market defining cholesterol and hypertension reducing product(s) at Vital Foods in May. Distributors are in place, the supply chain is ready, the science is peer reviewed and the company is set to deliver commercialisation in a time frame which is enviable to its competitors. And before then, the full year results are to be released in a few business days time, which will demonstrate the extent of sales in Slimbiome and potentially provide an indication of "other revenue" generated from commercial partners developing products, for example Tata.

If I was invested in DDDD currently, I personally would be switching my investment to OPTI, the contrasting commercial strategies of both companies is night and day and makes the board of directors at OPTI appear vastly superior in executing their strategy, enabling OPTI to create a material first mover advantage.

Who cares if the share priced dipped whilst half the market is on holiday. I'm personally very happy to wait for the next few weeks to unfold and many years beyond. Everything SOH has said over the past two years he has fully delivered on. I have 100% confidence the next few weeks will see him deliver again, both regarding the healthy cash balance of the business, and the launch of the cholesterol products next month.

[1bokke] 13/4/2017 12:04

And so say all of us...

[lukead] 13/4/2017 11:56

i'll tell you what, you can have the last word with your post, this is boring the pants off me

[scotty1] 13/4/2017 11:44

Dear dear you give me a post like that and think i'm going to end it,think again :)

Once again your witticism just doesn't quite hit the mark i'm afraid,but keep trying and perhaps one day you'll nail it.

No i'm not a rangers fan and i reckon JJ can vouch for that.Scotty dogs love em but prefer my two barking yorkies.

[lukead] 13/4/2017 11:27

Scotty , I assume you are a rangers fan and have a Scotty dog as a pet, if you don't mind we will end this spat now, my passing shot is I'll be looking out for a post from you which does not have your usual brand of so called humour and might contain a bit of an insight into holding shares OPTI, trust you have got the message so end it, i.e. No need for a reply, thank you so much, hoots mon abc remember never cast a coat until May is out, lol