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|Thank you for posting that. I haven't seen those.|
|A couple of new broker ratings recently helping to maintain momentum I think:
5th Dec: Numis resumes with BUY & 650p target
2nd Dec: Berenberg initiates with BUY & 660p target
|The share price still hasn't really got back to where it was at the time of the rights issue. 615p pre-rights equates to about 543p I think as a theoretical ex-rights price.
Today's trading update is (marginally) encouraging, although I think they've put back the expected acquisition completion date from late 2016 to early 2017. I'm not sure Menzies ever gave the "late 2016" date but I remember seeing it somewhere - perhaps attributed to the seller. But in any case I think there's still scope for the share price to run purely to catch up with where it was before the market indigestion caused by the rights issue. And the longer sterling stays down at these levels, the more sustained the currency translation upside should be.|
|Big breakout on a good statement:
"The Group continues to trade well and the Board is confident of being marginally ahead of current market expectations. Additionally, the Group continues to benefit from foreign exchange tailwinds which will further enhance the full year result. "
Jumped in for a trade on the back of the breakout and strong book - buyers queuing up.|
|Up, up and away?|
|Could be. It looks like BNY has something to do with Frankfurter Aktienfonds für Stiftungen, the Shareholder Value Management fund.
The FT tear sheet is a bit confusing as it lists SVM and Mellon as holding positions (and also Bank Hapoalim (Schweiz) AG), although with different dates.
The rights prospectus just listed SVM, holding 4.3m shares as of 14th September and expected to go to 5.9m shares if they took up their rights.
The RNS today shows BNY going from 4.8m shares to 8.4m as a result of converting rights.
So perhaps they increased from the 4.3m shown in the prospectus to 4.8m by buying shares and then exercised rights and bought more rights to take them to the 8.4 in today's declaration.
If that is what has happened, and if Kabouter and Lakestreet did take up their rights then that would put the 3 at over 30% between them:
12.1% Kabouter (from prospectus)
10.1% SVM (if the BNY holding is theirs)
8.5% Lakestreet (from prospectus)|
|I think that is a proxy...|
|Well there's a turnup. BNY emerges from nowhere as the biggest declared shareholder (at least pending Kabouter's post-rights disclosure) with 10.1%.|
|Sub 9x PE, I doubt there is better value (in terms of a risk / reward payoff) close to what Menzies is offering.|
|Thank you. It's nice when a trade idea works so cleanly.
I've just bought back a third tranche at 480p, which takes me pretty close to the holding I would have had if I had exercised all my rights. So done for now and hoping for a quick bounce back once the market has finished digesting the rights and starts to focus on the fundamentals again.|
|Excellent work 1gw. A very skilful call you made.|
|Just bought a second tranche back at 479p. I guess this morning's drop is trying to find a home for the shares not taken up in the rights issue.|
|And that's me starting to buy back in with a purchase at 498p. It looks like things have stabilised at this level although there may still be a reasonable rump of lapsed rights to sell on or around 27th.|
|Well, that's me out for the time being. All shares and rights gone. First time since 2008 I haven't owned any.
Hope to be back in before too long once the rights issue noise is out of the way.|
|I know, I still like the story, but wanted to take some portfolio gains anyway and wanted to try the trade. "5 for 14" is a lot of shares coming into existence.
I added a second sell and have ended up selling about 60% of my existing holding (but then have the option of taking up the rights). If the price does move down over the next few weeks I'll look to buy back. If it moves up significantly I may have some regrets, although there are other things I'm looking to buy with at least some of the money anyway.|
|The new chairman will buy rights in the market. I wonder what that will start happening. He has a few hundred thousand to buy according to the prospectus.
Sterling is helping Menzies earnings materially. It's not reflected in the price. 56p of earnings on 540p share price. Sub 10x. Amazing value.|
|I'm afraid that's an attempt at a short-term trade by me, selling some just now.
The price today has held up at pretty much the theoretical ex-rights price based on yesterday's 615p close (at least according to my calcs). So I think as the rights come through to shareholders' accounts there will be some selling pressure. While it is possible that someone will use this as an opportunity to accumulate, I think the incentive for the activists to seek more control is diminished now that the company seems to be moving in the direction the activists were pushing for.|
|Seems crazy to even pay any attention to short term price movements. My energy is saved for more astute endeavours....it's where the price is a year or two or five from now that is important.|
|Nice to see the share price up near 620p again but feels like someone playing games here. Share price apparently driven up on tiny trades with very little total volume. Yesterday afternoon we had a similar pattern and then a relatively big uncrossing trade well below the price just before the close. Fingers crossed we don't get a repeat today.|
I missed it at the time but according to the FCA spreadsheet, Old Mutual closed out their short on 16th September (from 0.56% to 0.00%), the day of the acquisition announcement. So perhaps the volume and spike in price on the day was largely driven by Old Mutual's decision to close.|
|Volumes are very low...I'm guessing but it re-rates post RI....Implied P/E after RI is now 9.4x|
|Share price a bit disappointing since the acquisition announcement spike. One day I will learn to take profit when announcements are made. Is it just the "usual" weakness ahead of a rights issue?|
|Hmmm. Manuel was fibbing.|