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[bad gateway] 29/10/2020 12:45

Don't tell me I'm a fruitcake you doughnut.

[guitarhaggis] 29/10/2020 12:43

Gozzie- So 3 months from March is when exactly?

We're practically in November so you were well out.

Some of us have said from the beginning that this covid scam is going to run for years.

Guess who's right then.

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 12:41

Don't tell me what I made up .You are another fruitcake .

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 12:40

Eh 2 of my mates believed him both big Boris fans .My brother keeps coming up with odd information telling my mum covids a hoax only black people get it and he's had it .I ended up telling her to wake up he had gotten into her head like you lol .

[bad gateway] 29/10/2020 12:40

"No I didn't I told my mates at least 3 months"

No you didn't you made that up.lol

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 12:37

No I didn't I told my mates at least 3 months as I have done this time .He said it to quieten the numbskulls that take it in .Everybody I know rings me and asks what I think I always get it right .I said 28 days for this tier 3 not a prayer .

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 12:35

Its this Internet information. Its so dangerous its untrue. The gullible around 80 percent that are intellectually challenged follow it and believe it. We are in big trouble.

[guitarhaggis] 29/10/2020 12:33

Gozzie- I bet you were one of the numpties who believed Boris when he told you the original lockdown was for 3 weeks. How's that going fella?

Lambs to the slaughter.

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 12:33

No flu across the whole planet .That's got to be the best post I've ever seen .Which school did these people go to i bet it was approved.

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 12:31

Office of national statistics. Flu will be down we are distancing ,working from home and masks .Stay in until March and I guarantee you won't catch flu or covid lol .

[guitarhaggis] 29/10/2020 12:30

Shakes head and rolls eyes.

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 12:29

What on earth are these people talking about .Have we been invaded by aliens lol .. Main points. Of all death occurrences between January and August 2020, there were 48,168 deaths due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) compared with 13,619 deaths due to pneumonia and 394 deaths due to influenza.8 Oct 2020

[guitarhaggis] 29/10/2020 12:26

bad gateway- Absolutely, I mentioned this to him yesterday regarding flu.

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 12:24

Anyway I think we have made our points on covid .It will all come out in the wash .Atb I could murder a pint .

[guitarhaggis] 29/10/2020 12:24

Gozzie- You really can't see the woods for the trees can you. You say you deal in facts but then completely ignore them.

[bad gateway] 29/10/2020 12:24

or it could be much milder. Though this one is far milder than gozzie seems to think.Do you know that for the first year ever on the planet theres been absolutely no flu deaths worldwide this season.
Yep thats right across the whole planet no flu deaths they're all covid19!?!?
Makes covid look more and more like one big scam designed to bring forward depopulation and the nwo.

[guitarhaggis] 29/10/2020 12:08

There was a private meeting in May 2019 of the National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence (NSCAI) including participants from the intelligence services, the pentagon and silicon valley who were there to discuss AI technology and how it relates to the US and China going forward. The presentation was only made available after a freedom of information request and it's findings were quite interesting.

It turns out that the US are extremely worried regarding the technological advantage that they presently hold over China and fear that they may lose their crown if they don't make sweeping changes to how they operate. The problem is that although the US are great at inventing and innovation technology-wise China has many advantages when it actually comes to the adoption stage, that being that the US have too many 'legacy systems' that hold them back which it's biggest challenger doesn't. China can foist whatever they like onto their public whether they want it or not which gives them a massive advantage in this technology race. The US believe that unless they get rid of these obstacles then china will not only take the lead but will fly off into the distance with it while also taking the leading role in creating the global framework for this fourth industrial revolution.

So what are these 'legacy systems' that are holding the US back and which need to be completely overhauled or gotten rid of?

Well there are plenty, take cash for one. We have old fashioned bank notes, coins and cards here slowing transactions down whereas in China every electronic transaction can be tracked and taxed effortlessly. They (US) also see the scale of their consumer market being too large (stores) so would prefer more online shopping. How about person to person doctor appointments, does that seem like an efficient use of a doctors time? They even see individual car ownership as a problem. There are so many of these 'legacy systems' that we take for granted but that they consider are getting in the way of things.

The biggest obstacle though comes with regards data. Data it has been said is the new oil, Governments and big tech just can't get enough of the stuff and in this new era whoever has the most data will be at a massive advantage. In China everybody is surveilled 24/7, every journey tracked electronically and with the aid of facial recognition cameras, every transaction is monitored, every interaction traced and every communication recorded. Telephone conversations are even screened by algorithms and have been used to prosecute cases relating to anything from minor driving violations through to murder. The benefits of data seems endless.

So there's a massive problem here.

The US sees it's long term position and dominance reliant on not only competing on a level playing field with China regarding the techniques employed to implement policy on it's people in this technological arms race but that it will probably need to surpass them. Why would people choose to upend their lives, lose their jobs, businesses and way of life for something they'd probably previously never even given any thought to? Why would they give up their rights, privacy and freedoms for something so radical? Do they really want to live in a China style surveillance state?

Without sounding presumptuous I think if this were to be put to the public I would say it just isn't going to fly, absolutely no chance.

They can't force it onto the people because we live in the freedom loving capitalist West.

So how are we going to navigate this impasse?.............

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Any ideas?....



Enter stage left Covid 19......

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 12:06

Tech companies have all the data and are controlling us to an extent but I forgive them as I've made money out of them lol .

[guitarhaggis] 29/10/2020 12:04

Gozzie- Seriously it's not.

[guitarhaggis] 29/10/2020 12:02

Of course we don't want to be controlled but this is the best way to bring it in, as if we actually need it.

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 12:00

I'm just wishing for this problem to be solved so my mum can go out without fear and my niece can have her cancer treatment properly resumed .I don't want to be controlled forever and nobody in this country does .

[guitarhaggis] 29/10/2020 11:59

Gozzie- You cannot see that we are being led into a surveillance state regime being totally monitored and controlled by the minutest of detail to what we can and can't do? Really you can't see this?

[gozzie2] 29/10/2020 11:57

Why not have anarchy then and no restrictions thats actually more likely now .