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[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 21:52

Yes fair enough no more virus .Truce .

[konradpuss] 28/10/2020 21:47

Moving on, is Wetherspoons a Costco?

I think it might well be in the long run.

I am only sorry it cannot expand overseas like Costco.

When you see the value you get at 'Spoons' where is the competition?

Come on all (including GOZZIE666) let's 'park' the virus for a while.

[guitarhaggis] 28/10/2020 21:29

Here you go Gozzie, a bit of common sense for you.

UK Column News from today.



Thank me later... :0)

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 20:54

I should have said that succinct instead of 100 posts lol .

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 20:53

Exactly essential.

[konradpuss] 28/10/2020 20:48

Essential, there are plenty of recless Swedes, believe me.

I must admit Swedes in general follow government guide lines.

It will be very interesting to see if Tegnell and his old boss Gysacker are going to be proved right.

I heard an interesting analogy the other day - if you flatten the curve now it just springs back up down the line.

A very difficult problem this virus, however I think most have lost their perspective.

[essentialinvestor] 28/10/2020 20:48

It's the number in hospital with COVID-19 that is driving policy,
nearly 10,000 now.

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 20:42

0.3 percent which is 200,000 which they said in March eventually.

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 20:39

It will kill the same percentage just over a longer period of time .

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 20:34

True to an extent konrad the deaths may end up the same .Its all about not overwhelming the NHS. I like the 666 lol .

[konradpuss] 28/10/2020 20:14

GOZZIE666 Let's see in the fullness of time if Sweden is a disaster. It is far too early to start calling winners and losers.

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 19:56

France and Germany and its not coming here .Think again.

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 19:14

Ah someone talking sense .A rare thing these days not just from social media .

[tim 3] 28/10/2020 19:11

We have had several confirmed cases at work, our local shop had to close because of an outbreak affecting 3 of the staff one of them who has complications and one of my friends farther is critically ill in hospital with it.The threat is real.

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 19:04

Germany shut down for 4 weeks now .Decisive action we will linger on for months .

[lodgeview] 28/10/2020 18:29

TO £10 here

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 17:48

Last word on the subject quite enough for today lol .No wonder your sister in law is now your ex sister in law as you called her and the organisation she worked for Scum .

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 17:42

I said Social Media is the most dangerous thing ever invented and proffesor Gozzie was correct again .

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 17:40

You are very Gullible .Views And ReviewsAcute PerspectiveDavid Oliver: Hospitals are not "half empty"BMJ 2020; 371 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.m3924 (Published 14 October 2020)Cite this as: BMJ 2020;371:m3924David Oliver, consultant in geriatrics and acute general medicineAuthor [e-mail] David on Twitter @mancunianmedicThe pandemic has seen a recurring assertion in mainstream and social media that hospitals are empty. The implication is that earlier concerns about hospitals being overwhelmed were exaggerated or that clinical staff are workshy, while managers are incompetent or complacent about patients without covid-19 awaiting treatment. But the current low, if steadily rising, numbers of inpatients with covid-191 don't mean that hospitals are hibernating.The DailyTelegraph reported recently that hospitals were "eerily quiet" and "literally half empty." If you work in acute general hospitals it's hard to read this stuff and not get upset. Members of the public then engage in frustration with doctors, asking us to explain or defend this fake news.I can see how the impression of "emptiness" might take hold for people who set foot in a hospital. They're not quite as full as they were before the pandemic, but there are valid reasons for this. For infection control and health protection purposes, we have very limited visiting. Some outpatient consultations have been moved to online or telephone. Lobby shops and cafes aren't running as usual. Car parks have spaces. Physical appointments, tests, and procedures are organised differently, to avoid crowded waiting areas or patient-to-patient transmission. But hospitals are not "literally half empty," however much this is repeated.NHS Wales reported on 1 October that bed occupancy in general and acute beds was back at 87%.2 We're still waiting for NHS England's report for Q2 2020, but I've seen October data also showing rates of 87%. Attendances at type 1 emergency departments in September 2020 in England were around 13% lower and emergency admissions 9% lower than last year, but they're growing monthly.3 With a second covid-19 surge now escalating and more infected patients attending or admitted once again-as well as a parallel push by NHS England for elective activity to catch up on a backlog of delayed work-teams around the country are noticing pressures on demand and bed capacity.We're now into the usual seasonal surge of acute admissions for a host of other problems, including non-covid infection. Intensive care staff are gearing up for another potential rapid increase in their bed base, with NHS England issuing discharge guidance and additional funding to help move medically optimised patients from scarce acute beds to community health and social care support.I'm hearing many reports of hospital wards or bays having to close because of proven or suspected covid outbreaks, with pressure upstream in emergency departments and beds taken temporarily out of commission, which may then affect elective admissions for surgery and procedures. And escalation plans may again see hospitals organising front door streams and ward bases into "hot" and "cold" areas, to try to separate covid from non-covid patients.The NHS entered the pandemic with one of the lowest numbers of acute beds per capita among developed nations4 and was already struggling to meet waiting time standards for emergency departments, surgery, or outpatients. Overcrowding will be disastrous for infection control, but modelling from Edge Health, reported in the Guardian, suggested that over 100 hospital trusts in England would be overwhelmed, at 10% over usual capacity, if a second pandemic surge compounded the usual rise in seasonal admission this winter.5Even the 90%-plus occupancy in general and acute beds pre-pandemic was too high for safe, flexible bed use, patient flow, and infection control, and it often left patients on trolleys in corridors or ambulances stacked outside.67 It's surely not something to aspire to now. Nor do we want to return to large numbers of "stranded patients," fit to leave but awaiting community services.Finally, we must consider the impact on workforce availability when staff are sick, self-isolating, or awaiting covid-19 tests, in a system already struggling with unfilled posts. So no, hospitals are not "half empty," and even when they're less full than usual there are very good reasons.Footnotes

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 17:35

Oh well then Guitar everything fine fill yer boots theres no pandemic.Whats the fuss about .

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 17:30

Correct eeza

[guitarhaggis] 28/10/2020 17:17

The hospitals even at the peak were absolutely nowhere near full, not even close so not difficult to keep them separate, they were doing anything but.

Have you not been on social media at all while all of this nonsense has been going on because it paints a totally different picture to what you and the mainstream media are peddling. People actually working in hospitals and saying that they're empty. My former sister-in-law works for a local hospital and she said the same.

[eeza] 28/10/2020 17:10

Far easier for Swedes to social distance because ~50% are single households and they don't have the same density of housing as we do.

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 17:10

Saying they are empty is nonsense, go snd have a look for yourself. Maybe your area isn't as badly affected but these northern ones are and its spreading further afield.