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[johnwise] 28/10/2020 09:06

Not so different to North Korea or China?

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[johnwise] 28/10/2020 08:19

Communist China takes out the British Economy Make millions unemployed.. And the British Government continues to rebuild China with Tax Free Imports from Communist China?


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[dudishes] 28/10/2020 04:45

50K shortage does not apply to the North?

[dudishes] 28/10/2020 04:44

But cared by the same Staff that run the hospital!

[gozzie2] 28/10/2020 01:22

There's the answer to the Nightingale question The Nightingale Hospital reopens this week - and it's going to be used in a very different way this timeIt will be run differently to how it was in the first wave.SHAREBY JOSEPH TIMAN19:18, 27 OCT 2020UPDATED19:27, 27 OCT 2020 ??The North West Nightingale Hospital will reopen later this week(Image: Getty Images)Manchester's Nightingale hospital will reopen later this week – but will be run differently to how it was in the first wave of the coronavirus crisis.The temporary facility opened at Manchester Central Convention Complex, formerly known as the G-Mex, in April, but has been closed since the summer.It was set up by NHS England to provide care for hundreds of patients with Covid-19 from across the North West and help hospitals cope with capacity.But later this week, when it reopens, it will be used for non-Covid patients.Any hospitals wanting to use beds at the facility must supply their own staff.??The hospital will be used for non-covid patients when it reopens(Image: PA)The first ward has been commissioned by Manchester Foundation Trust, which will run the facility alongside agency staff sourced by NHS Professionals.NHS England is expecting the first patients within the next couple of days.A spokesperson said: "The NHS Nightingale Hospital North West will be able to accept patients later this week to provide care for those who do not have Covid-19, but need further support before they are able to go home, such as therapy and social care assessments.

[gozzie2] 27/10/2020 23:35

An alarm sounds when you leave your house and you wonder why we are not doing as well as South Korea.These people are way more advanced .

[gozzie2] 27/10/2020 23:09

This is the guy march 28th put him in charge instead of these that are clueless .They just say oh we didn't know what we was dealing with .How come this guy did .https://youtu.be/gAk7aX5hksU

[gozzie2] 27/10/2020 23:07

I've been saying this would happen since march so its not hindsight its not rocket science .I watched a top Korean doc in march and hes got everything spot on .He said wear masks and it took until July for us to wear them .Many still don't. Wetherspoons tonight nobody on the door track and trace was full so my mates walked in no details given .I said the rochdale one was as described filthy menus seating etc .Some of the managers are clueless.

[gozzie2] 27/10/2020 23:02

I'm not saying its been handled well far from it im just predicting what will happen .Get that correct and you have half a chance in the stockmarket. For me like the Chinese its strict lockdown and very strict quarantine from then on from people coming in .That won't happen so it will be terrible towards Xmas. This track and trace is a disaster. People do what they want i bet they don't in China and dubai .All of England needs to be under Tier 3 lockdown by Christmas, gloomy medics warnhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13039104/england-tier-3-lockdown-christmas/

[scruff1] 27/10/2020 22:47

Dont they have nightingale hospitals? I thought the initial lockdown was to allow the nhs to prepare. Have we had no time to prepare since February? Have we had no money to spend. We are now back to square one - apart from this time there is no cash and not much left to protect. But ok lockdown the whole country. And when its over and the cases rise what do you suggest - lockdown again? Doesnt seem a logical game plan to me. Like I read - a growing weight of expert opinion is now that lockdowns dont work. Why keep going down a pointless route.
I have no personal knowledge but living in Manchester we were told last week by the health authority that 82% was about normal for this time of year. What percentage of the critical care beds in the nightingales are empty?

[gozzie2] 27/10/2020 22:39

Is this how we want to end up because it will.Antrim Area Hospital is "operating beyond capacity" with 27 sick patients awaiting admission, the Northern Trust has warned.Patients were on Monday evening asked not to attend the hospital's emergency department unless urgent medical care was requited.The warning came as the Trust warned Northern Ireland is "in the midst of the second Covid surge" with the hospital taking care of very ill patients.Meanwhile, the Northern Ireland Ambulance Service (NIAS) said it was "extremely busy" on Monday evening and asked for patience."We will prioritise calls to provide the quickest response to the most seriously ill or injured," it said.

[gozzie2] 27/10/2020 22:30

Where do you suggest people go when they are ill then in a couple of weeks .NewsOpinionSportCultureLifestyle??Show captionCoronavirusCovid: Greater Manchester running out of intensive care beds, leak revealsNHS document shows no spare ICU beds for patients in Salford, Stockport and BoltonSun 18 Oct 2020 15.18 EDTGreater Manchester is set to run out of intensive care beds to treat people left seriously ill by Covid-19, and some of those units in the region's 12 hospitals are already full, a leaked NHS document has revealed.It showed that by last Friday the resurgence of the disease had left the ICUs of hospitals in Salford, Stockport and Bolton at maximum capacity, with no spare beds to help with the growing influx. The picture it paints ratchets up the pressure on ministers to reach a deal with local leaders over the region's planned move to the top level of coronavirus restrictions.It suggested that Greater Manchester's hospitals are quickly heading towards being overwhelmed by the sheer number of people with Covid needing emergency care to save their lives, in the same way that those in Liverpool have become in recent weeks. By Friday 211 of the 257 critical care beds in Greater Manchester – 82% of the total supply – were already being used for either those with Covid or people who were critically ill because of another illness.

[scruff1] 27/10/2020 22:04

Lockdowns are absolutely a waste of time and everything else and thankfully they are increasingly being recognized as such. They have worked nowhere apart from possibly China. The world has followed like headless chickens for want of any other rational plan. The collateral damage is out of all proportion to anything gained from the can kicking exercise. Lockdown ends infections rise, lockdown restarts infections down,etc etc. Check mate is when and what exactly? The sooner our leaders and experts come up with a co existence strategy the better. I dont go into many pubs but in the ones I have been in I have been impressed with their coping strategies and feel perfectly safe. In Dubai take a test at the airport and have to stay in until result which normally arrives within one day. Take extra care to protect the vulnerable and clamp down heavily on those blatanly flouting basic precautions. Lets get on with our lives before there is nothing left to get on with.

[norfolk enchance] 27/10/2020 22:02

Tim Martin needs to put as much effort in making his pubs covid safe as his trading update rants. Recent visit to Wetherspoons - sanitizer empty at entrance which made people touch/press, they are automatic. A magazine distributed on tables for people to read. Table I sat at hadn't been cleaned for some time had sticky dried alcohol on the surface, and never saw any wiping down of tables in the hour I was there. Some younger customers walking to the toilet, and chatting to bar staff with no mask on, both unchallenged

[rescuer] 27/10/2020 19:06

aye Gozzie, just a short sharp lock down, 14 days just to reduce the spread.

The death figures are Sept numbers, as hospitalisation to death is around 20 days, add in 6 days a carrier and then symptoms, which is worrying as the new case numbers are admissions have rocketed over the last two weeks.

The "worldsite" has updated it's projections on (NHS) ICU bed requirements, the MEAN line crosses tomorrow, the bottom band estimate now has ICU beds being breached on 8th November.

i've disregarded the numbers that were and still are, being put out by the Govt and are looking at hospitalisations and ICU bed requirements now, to gauge the Wave.

[gozzie2] 27/10/2020 17:13

Deaths jumping up sharply now .Lockdown will follow imo .We shall see hopefully im wrong .

[rescuer] 27/10/2020 15:51

Ignoble - agreed, can't trust them at all.

[bad gateway] 27/10/2020 15:02

I'd suggest they're right to be suspicious. Gov claiming they're testing 300k per day?
Test centres are as empty as the hospitals were in US.

[ignoble] 27/10/2020 14:52

Good luck with a Full National Lockdown.
We mostly live our lives that way these days.

Very few believe much that the so called Experts tell us anymore.

[ignoble] 27/10/2020 14:46

Spoons today for the first time in a long time.
Had to have their Traditional Brunch which was just what the Doctor ordered..

Can only give them full marks for all the precautions they have in place too.

Quite busy, a fair number of people eating. More than I thought there would be.

[rescuer] 27/10/2020 13:02

konrad, just been on the news, SAGE have this morning advised the Govt for a full national lockdown

[gozzie2] 26/10/2020 22:22

Track and trace is only effective with smaller numbers of cases .In march they pinpointed people down to a hotel in York and a guy on the front page of the papers as a superspreader.There was 1000s coming in each day from abroad they quickly hadn't a clue where it was . Only 15 percent are complying with the rules so its not effective.Not one person I know is strictly complying to these tier 3 rules so we are all to blame .

[konradpuss] 26/10/2020 22:13

rescuer, I'm afraid 'Big Boris' and Co. are not listening to anyone but SAGE.

The Army should have been brought in way back to assist in what ever they could contribute to.

Myself, I am a believer in track and trace and very few restrictions on the population.

Oh! and protecting the care homes. Sounds like Sweden to me.